Formula Renault BARC - Page 3

Redracer77 · 20 Feb 2007, 20:13 (Ref:1846715)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayFF

See there was only a dozen drivers in the club class in 2006 think I'll wait and see what happens in 2007.

Does anyone hire cars out?

See you are selling both your cars Ian & Bob why? What you doing this year?

John,

come and test one of my F4's if you fancy cheap slicks and wings racing. We are just finishing off our new 07 spec car. We could build you a new car for the cost of your Ray.

Bob Pearson · 21 Feb 2007, 08:41 (Ref:1847054)

We did advertise the cars with the intention of moving up to the championship class. After various close calls we didn't sell them and we were losing our nerve a bit regarding compliance with the championship rules. So we are running in the club class again this year. It is difficult to be sure of numbers yet as registrations don't need to be in before the Renault test day at Oulton. Understandably drivers are hanging on to their money to the last minute. However, talking to people we are looking like having the greater share of the grid this year. (I may yet prove to be wrong but that is the general impression) We ended last year with capacity grids at the last 3 rounds, but the major share of the grid all last season was held by the
championship class.
Come to the Oulton test on March the 20th if you live up that end of the country and talk to a few people. I think it is possible to get a very distorted view from sites like this, as you never know if the person you are taking notice of has ever even sat in a car let alone raced one.
Reon and Muzz hire out cars or run owners cars for them, as does Nicky Wilson ( terje on 10 tenths) a previous champion of this formula.

Triple J Motorsport · 21 Feb 2007, 10:53 (Ref:1847179)

Unfortunately I am based between Brighton and Gatwick in West Sussex.

If I was nearer Oulton I would do the NWFF as that is a great championship.

When your calender is released or posted on the BARC site I'll come and watch have a chat etc.

Would be interested in testing too a good car too.

Triple J Motorsport · 21 Feb 2007, 10:57 (Ref:1847184)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redracer77

John,

come and test one of my F4's if you fancy cheap slicks and wings racing. We are just finishing off our new 07 spec car. We could build you a new car for the cost of your Ray.

Chris when we spoke you wanted more than I can afford. I want to buy something and hopefully have some change from the sale of my car not add thousands to it.

ADEE · 21 Feb 2007, 16:44 (Ref:1847394)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pearson

So we are running in the club class again this year.

So the secret's out...Bob, that's great news. Actually thinking again I'm not so sure - Ian running in club clas again - hmmm!!! Maybe I should have bought your car! Looks like we'll all need to raise our game. I have been scouring the regs for the new rule about success ballast but to no avail!!

Anyway good to know there'll be some familiar faces in the paddock when eventually we get out to race. And for all those thinking of joining those faces are friendly too - none of that bickering found on other 'club' forums!!

MattW · 21 Feb 2007, 19:04 (Ref:1847458)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayFF

Hi Matt

Well I wasn't and probably won't just yet having just updated it to 07 spec under weight dry now (Mag rear casting, new bell cranks, alloy starter etc).

But I could sell it a dozen times tomorrow for a lot more than a very good 98/99 FR.

There is 1 BRSCC FF1600 race at Brands this year and the festival as there was last year but we had MSVR races etc too. Was hoping there would be more of these but no sign of any. Plus the BRDC seem to be dropping all but the WHT at Silverstone all moving to Ireland and Scotland!

If/when I change will be racing in another club other than BRSCC and this is BARC and Renault still seem interested where as Ford and FF1600!

Need to watch a few races and try a few cars for size may be a test too, as I am 5'11" with broad shoulders. The Ray fits like a glove the Mygale was designed for 5'2" drivers it was a nightmare!

Keith doing anything?

John

John if you want to have a look at mine let me know, were not too far from you. It's a good size car simlar in size as my '95 Swift ff1600.

Keith is busy with the magazine. He still has my old '93 in the garage but no time to use it. As there is no longer a Brands based Championship I have been trying to convince him to sell it and get a Renault.

MattW · 21 Feb 2007, 19:31 (Ref:1847478)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pearson

Matt
Why don't you bring your Van Diemen out with us where it belongs. If you run in the other formulas you won't be allowed to run it at the design ride height and you will be left wondering why you can't get the best out of it. Don't think that ours is some kind of elitist formula, true the front end is quite quick, but there is a good spread of genuine clubmen scattered through the field. I've raced in F4, URS FF2000 and Mono, and BARC Renault is just as friendly and helpful as any of those, in some cases more so!!

Hi Bob, I intend to do the snetterton round of the 750, and see how that goes. I still haven't driven the thing, or driven anything for 2 years as I'm still trying to get the dash sorted out. Do you think the Barc would let me do the odd race if I were to install a PI C-Dash instead????

Redracer77 · 21 Feb 2007, 23:02 (Ref:1847613)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattW

Hi Bob, I intend to do the snetterton round of the 750, and see how that goes. I still haven't driven the thing, or driven anything for 2 years as I'm still trying to get the dash sorted out. Do you think the Barc would let me do the odd race if I were to install a PI C-Dash instead????

Matt if your testing before Snetterton come over and say hello. Absolute will be in a white truck with silver new awning

See you in Norfolk.

Bob Pearson · 22 Feb 2007, 08:32 (Ref:1847834)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattW

Hi Bob, I intend to do the snetterton round of the 750, and see how that goes. I still haven't driven the thing, or driven anything for 2 years as I'm still trying to get the dash sorted out. Do you think the Barc would let me do the odd race if I were to install a PI C-Dash instead????

What is actually up with the dash Matt, they can be repaired, but often duff sensors/wiring is confused with dash problems.

MattW · 24 Feb 2007, 20:47 (Ref:1850714)

[quote=Bob Pearson]What is actually up with the dash Matt, they can be repaired, but often duff sensors/wiring is confused with dash problems.[/quote

I can start the car and the rain light works but nothing else. My brother has given it to renault sport to look at Hopefully they will be able to sort it out.

Triple J Motorsport · 28 Feb 2007, 16:47 (Ref:1853895)

Guys whats a good / pole time around Brands indy for 2L FR?

ianpearson · 1 Mar 2007, 08:32 (Ref:1854384)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayFF

Guys whats a good / pole time around Brands indy for 2L FR?

which class do you mean, last years times were quite slow due to all the touring car rubber being laid down around the track

Triple J Motorsport · 1 Mar 2007, 10:49 (Ref:1854467)

I thought the carbon cars were 1.6L ?

I meant your cars

Tour car rubber slowed you down? Why?

ianpearson · 1 Mar 2007, 11:02 (Ref:1854474)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayFF

I thought the carbon cars were 1.6L ?

I meant your cars

Tour car rubber slowed you down? Why?

The carbon cars are 2.0L aswell, they are just 16v as apposed to the club class 8v.

Pole time for the club class for the winter series in 2005 was a mid 46sec. on a hot day it may be more like a low 47, a 48 would still be respectable. The Touring cars seemed to be laying a lot of rubber down that our tyres were picking up & keeping on the surface of the tyre, its the only reason i can think of to explain why that weekend was so slow.

ADEE · 1 Mar 2007, 14:04 (Ref:1854604)

From memory we had terrential rain on Friday which must have washed most of the summer rubber away. The weekend was dry but given it was late Sep not sure the track got that hot althought the air temp was high enough.
Not sure if that helps explain it but certainly not many people ran inside 49s. Of course we were missing our champ who had gone all pro on us and stepped into a carbon car!! He may have posted anyting up to 2 secs quicker going on previous differentials.
Has Mr Palmer made any subtle track changes that have 'lengthened' the lap - or at least made corner cutting less advantageous?

Triple J Motorsport · 1 Mar 2007, 14:46 (Ref:1854637)

No the track is unaltered

Corner cutting at Brands!?! Some do at surtees some don't I have tried both and don't as do most people.

More likely heavy rain washed the track clean.

Bob Pearson · 2 Mar 2007, 09:36 (Ref:1855403)

Well, there was something in what Ian said, my tyres are still covered in an unusual amount of pick up following that event.
I'll have to scrub it off at Oulton on March the 20th and leave it with them.

Bob Pearson · 2 Mar 2007, 16:06 (Ref:1855646)

I've just had a bit of a chin wag with a few people, its now looking like between 15 and 17 club class cars. Goos news, I was predicting 50% share of the grid this year, looks like it could be even better!!
The interesting thing is that quite a few cars have come back which were lost to other formulas ( and sat in garages) in recent years.

ADEE · 2 Mar 2007, 16:27 (Ref:1855656)

hmmm... better start saving then - that prize money is going to be harder to come by!

Triple J Motorsport · 5 Mar 2007, 14:21 (Ref:1858950)

Mygale or Tatuus ? Or another make?

Kimi won in a 99 Mygale didn't he? But is a 99 Tatuus still the better car?

Seen a 99 Tatuus with a PI system 2 dash and logger is that legal in BARC?

ianpearson · 5 Mar 2007, 14:31 (Ref:1858958)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayFF

Mygale or Tatuus ? Or another make?

Kimi won in a 99 Mygale didn't he? But is a 99 Tatuus still the better car?

Seen a 99 Tatuus with a PI system 2 dash and logger is that legal in BARC?

The mygale made kimi go back home with his tale between his legs mid season, he got severely beaten by pizzonia in a tatuus

I think mygale did win the championship in france though 98 or 99 & some people have made them go quick in BARC, nick wilcox & stuart turvey for example

Realy you need a tatuus 97 98 or 99. a van diemen 97/98 is a good bet, but only with the right dampers, i don't know what they are but only a couple of people have made them work, others have really struggled when using the standard damper

PI is fine but you are restricted to the number of chanels you can run

8thumpers · 5 Mar 2007, 20:19 (Ref:1859163)

Hopefully that dash of mine should have you sorted Matt.
I'll make sure it's well wrapped up!

Triple J Motorsport · 6 Mar 2007, 17:30 (Ref:1859937)

How much is a set of tyres?

ianpearson · 7 Mar 2007, 08:36 (Ref:1860388)

Between £500-510 & about £440 ish without the VAT, can't remember exectly

Triple J Motorsport · 7 Mar 2007, 10:20 (Ref:1860455)

Thanks

Seen there are lots available second hand from the UK championship team are they the same size?

What about wheels, not seen many around second hand.

John