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Victor_RO · 10 Oct 2017, 13:30 (Ref:3773436)

Derani and Briscoe having a bit of a Twitter argument about the incident that yielded a penalty for the #22...

https://twitter.com/PipoDerani/statu...42868036005888

NaBUru38 · 10 Oct 2017, 13:34 (Ref:3773437)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

And a healthy prototype class, whicvh the ALMS lacked the last years,

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Not true.

ALMS 'prototype' teams still in 'prototypes' for 2017 grid: ESM, Mazda, Bar1, PR1, PerfTech and JDC-Miller (ALMS-IMSA lites to Tudor PC) ...

GA: WTR, AXR and Visit Florida.

Next year Core Autosport(ALMS) will be rejoining the P grid after stepping away for 1 year.

o- 2010 ALMS: 6 entries in LMP (Highcroft, Muscle Milk, Dyson, Drayson, Autocon, Intersport)
o- 2011 ALMS: 4 entries in LMP1 (2x Dyson, Muscle Milk, Autocon), 0.5 entries in LMP2 (Level 5).
o- 2012 ALMS: 2 entries in LMP1 (Dyson, Muscle Milk Pickett), 2.5 entries in LMP2 (Level 5, Conquest, Dempsey).
o- 2013 ALMS: 3.5 entries in LMP1 (Dyson, Muscle Milk Pickett, DeltaWing, Rebellion), 2 entries in LMP2 (Level 5, Extreme Speed).

broadrun96 · 10 Oct 2017, 13:46 (Ref:3773439)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Derani and Briscoe having a bit of a Twitter argument about the incident that yielded a penalty for the #22...

https://twitter.com/PipoDerani/statu...42868036005888

Briscoe was shown blue flags for both stands prior to the incident. Failing to yield to a prototype before the Esses is dumb enough, the race leader is even dumber and now to argue it?? Come on Briscoe, you were well out of the GTLM fight. Grow up and fight another day, for me HE should have been parked for it. Not penalized, but PARKED, drivers won't learn until they are removed from the event and the team owner reads them the riot act. The BMW was as bad with blocking and screwing up others races after they were laps down from repairs. He has ruined what was an increasingly terrible race, the ending was terrible and the penalties just made it worse. Haven't like the GT, not a good looking car to me, but the way some of the drivers and team have responded to criticism and broken cars has just made me not care if they left the series tomorrow.

HORNDAWG · 10 Oct 2017, 15:44 (Ref:3773457)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

o- 2010 ALMS: 6 entries in LMP (Highcroft, Muscle Milk, Dyson, Drayson, Autocon, Intersport)
o- 2011 ALMS: 4 entries in LMP1 (2x Dyson, Muscle Milk, Autocon), 0.5 entries in LMP2 (Level 5).
o- 2012 ALMS: 2 entries in LMP1 (Dyson, Muscle Milk Pickett), 2.5 entries in LMP2 (Level 5, Conquest, Dempsey).
o- 2013 ALMS: 3.5 entries in LMP1 (Dyson, Muscle Milk Pickett, DeltaWing, Rebellion), 2 entries in LMP2 (Level 5, Extreme Speed).

The assertion you made was that the GA 'prototype' teams/runners were needed to make it successful. Well my response shows that it is the previous ALMS 'prototype' teams/runners who occupy the 'prototype' classes now and moving out of PC next year. Not GA 'prototype' teams. But delving back into that argument is fruitless and my wish is to stay on the now and future entrants and races.

L.P.

HORNDAWG · 10 Oct 2017, 16:02 (Ref:3773459)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Briscoe was shown blue flags for both stands prior to the incident. Failing to yield to a prototype before the Esses is dumb enough, the race leader is even dumber and now to argue it?? Come on Briscoe, you were well out of the GTLM fight. Grow up and fight another day, for me HE should have been parked for it. Not penalized, but PARKED, drivers won't learn until they are removed from the event and the team owner reads them the riot act. The BMW was as bad with blocking and screwing up others races after they were laps down from repairs. He has ruined what was an increasingly terrible race, the ending was terrible and the penalties just made it worse. Haven't like the GT, not a good looking car to me, but the way some of the drivers and team have responded to criticism and broken cars has just made me not care if they left the series tomorrow.

Briscoe was in 3rd and under 2 seconds out of the lead when he was put off, he was not out of the picture in GTLM (and I am not a Ford fan!)! That is the worst area on the track to try and pass, period, and everyone knows it. As well as that being emphasized by the stewards pre-race. There is no frakking conspiracy to demote Derani and the #22, he made a low percentage move and missed it! He was penalized for it.
The hyperbolic diatribe, is over the top.

L.P.

**joeb** · 10 Oct 2017, 20:48 (Ref:3773504)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Briscoe was shown blue flags for both stands prior to the incident. Failing to yield to a prototype before the Esses is dumb enough, the race leader is even dumber and now to argue it?? Come on Briscoe, you were well out of the GTLM fight. Grow up and fight another day, for me HE should have been parked for it. Not penalized, but PARKED, drivers won't learn until they are removed from the event and the team owner reads them the riot act. The BMW was as bad with blocking and screwing up others races after they were laps down from repairs. He has ruined what was an increasingly terrible race, the ending was terrible and the penalties just made it worse. Haven't like the GT, not a good looking car to me, but the way some of the drivers and team have responded to criticism and broken cars has just made me not care if they left the series tomorrow.

Watching protos pass going down the hill into the esses is always a little sketchy looking from our usual vantage point. Especially if they don't have the pass done before they get out of our view. That pass by Derani was one of those instances (of which there were hundreds through the weekend) where I couldn't tell what was going to happen. It worked out for people the first hundred times or so, but that last one didn't. I don't know what happened, but both drivers think they were right (imagine that)

JHamilton · 10 Oct 2017, 21:08 (Ref:3773510)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Watching protos pass going down the hill into the esses is always a little sketchy looking from our usual vantage point. Especially if they don't have the pass done before they get out of our view. That pass by Derani was one of those instances (of which there were hundreds through the weekend) where I couldn't tell what was going to happen. It worked out for people the first hundred times or so, but that last one didn't. I don't know what happened, but both drivers think they were right (imagine that)

The exit of T4 and entrance of the esses also requires cooperation between both drivers, meaning the prototype driver has to start the pass before the end of T4 and the GT driver must slow slightly to allow the pass to be completed. In this case, it looks like neither of those things happened. Pipo was late and Briscoe may not have braked. As they say around here, it's just one of those racing deals.

fergus_r · 13 Oct 2017, 22:05 (Ref:3774085)

Loved my first Petit- track is glorious and cracking race too.

Watched the final two hours from T5 spectator bank- saw the Derani/Briscoe incident in almost the exact same perspective as the TV camera caught it. Being on the inside of the Esses would have given a much better view but can't always be in the right place at the right time!