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Old 13 Apr 2017, 18:22 (Ref:3726179)   #886
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Miguel should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridMiguel should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
So I did a bit of asking around, and have come to the conclusion that AMG are not sandbagging. Definitely not Haribo, and neither is Black Falcon. The problem is indeed the top speed. But more on that later
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 19:37 (Ref:3726194)   #887
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Here we go, Lance David Arnold on the AMG's BoP: http://www.gt-report.com/2017/04/13/...to-a-gunfight/

If you speak German and you're wondering why this sounds so similar to what he told VLN-Fanpage (and which was later published in a written article by SCI), it's because we went looking for the Haribo drivers together and I did my interview immediately after theirs.
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 19:43 (Ref:3726196)   #888
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After last years BoP antics, I find it hard to believe to be honest. And if I'm being blunt, maybe after what happened at Spa, this is how it should be.
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 19:52 (Ref:3726198)   #889
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I'd believe them to be honest, this isn't the first race or series where the AMG GT has been found wanting for top speed. But the car is very good in all other respects, and in true Mario Kart fashion, that has to be evened out somewhere.

Nobody outside of Audi was complaining when the R8 would routinely be passed down any straight longer than a toothpick. This is the reality of BoP racing - the problem is that as the stakes have been raised, the "answer" everyone has reached is to keep something in reserve until the most important race.
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 22:52 (Ref:3726234)   #890
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After last years BoP antics, I find it hard to believe to be honest. And if I'm being blunt, maybe after what happened at Spa, this is how it should be.
We'll see. AMG might not only trying to fool us, but the drivers and teams as well.
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Old 14 Apr 2017, 08:35 (Ref:3726282)   #891
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They've cried wolf too many times to taken seriously, last year's N24 BoP was ridiculous. I'm hoping they leave it as it was for the last VLN race.

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Old 14 Apr 2017, 20:48 (Ref:3726467)   #892
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I also talked with Connor De Phillippi after the race. No BoP moaning from him, but he did had one other little complaint: Retiring from the lead in the final kilometers

http://www.gt-report.com/2017/04/14/...ns-unrewarded/
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Old 15 Apr 2017, 09:42 (Ref:3726532)   #893
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My favorite VLN2 photo, I think

More here: http://www.gt-report.com/wp-content/.../gtxm_7408.jpg

Regarding the AMG's BoP, I've been told that during the test last Monday one AMG was running Audi lap times and nearly the same top speed. The other AMGs slow as ****, one of them being the Haribo AMG. But that's just what I've heard.
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Old 16 Apr 2017, 15:10 (Ref:3727031)   #894
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Some more VLN stuff for all of you.

First, Fred Makowiecki being a bit harsh on sandbaggers, saying they should be punished (or is he right and should they be?): http://www.gt-report.com/2017/04/16/...d-be-punished/

And the first of what I hope will be three drivers writing a regular column for us. First up is Bradley Philpot, who races the Nett Peugeot TCR: http://www.gt-report.com/2017/04/16/...y-opportunity/
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Old 16 Apr 2017, 17:57 (Ref:3727147)   #895
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Sand bagging should be punished. It's pretending to be slow so the organisers make your car faster. You're trying to win by being given a better car than everybody else. How is that fair?

The problem is they all do it, and how do you absolutely prove someone is doing it to punish them?
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Old 16 Apr 2017, 20:11 (Ref:3727174)   #896
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After last years BoP antics, I find it hard to believe to be honest. And if I'm being blunt, maybe after what happened at Spa, this is how it should be.
They have it easier at VLN. Running the same cars in the same track. If a car is a % off from the mean of previous races let's place him a 275kg ballast.
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Old 17 Apr 2017, 15:22 (Ref:3727340)   #897
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Not sure sandbagging should be punished, although I wouldn't argue vehemently against it. Their punishment should just be poor BoP for the next year. Audi have suffered this at Spa a couple of times, but it's just because they've cried wolf too many times.

The organisers are partly responsible: the BoP changes are often way too drastic and simultaneously punish 'quick' cars and reward 'slow' ones. Therefore, instead of edging them together, there's often a huge swing from one side to the other.
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Old 19 Apr 2017, 22:10 (Ref:3727869)   #898
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DMSB has just given AMG more power and Porsche less. Glad I'm in Monza and not at the Ring this weekend lol
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DMSB has just given AMG more power and Porsche less. Glad I'm in Monza and not at the Ring this weekend lol
It's like watching a TV show that has the same format every week. How are they falling for this again...?
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Anyone got a link and uk start time for tomorrow's race? Cheers.
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