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DONINGTON HISTORIC FESTIVAL
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28 Apr 2017 to 30 Apr 2017 08:00 to 18:00
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Location: Castle Donington

Annual Historic Festival. In 2017 qualifying will be on Friday, with racing Saturday and Sunday.

Invited grids so far include all 4 Motor Racing Legends series, FJHRA, GTSCC and Jaguar Challenge.

There are also two races for HRDC categories-
TG/TC63
COYS
Further info on their website...

And two 40 min races for U2TC.
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Old 20 Apr 2017, 12:44 (Ref:3727957)   #31
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There is one 635 on the list- #55. Bit different to a few years ago though, when 635s outnumbered anything (and sometimes everything) else in touring car races!

Bit disappointed with the Jaguar race entries- 37 cars (good) but 31 of those are 'E' Types (not so good). Unless you like 'E's more than other Jags, of course.....
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I think my Tornado will be similarly paced and I was thinking just that.

If only I could finish . . . Building it!

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There is one 635 on the list- #55. Bit different to a few years ago though, when 635s outnumbered anything (and sometimes everything) else in touring car races!

Bit disappointed with the Jaguar race entries- 37 cars (good) but 31 of those are 'E' Types (not so good). Unless you like 'E's more than other Jags, of course.....
Oh brill i missed that one!!
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There is one 635 on the list- #55. Bit different to a few years ago though, when 635s outnumbered anything (and sometimes everything) else in touring car races!

Bit disappointed with the Jaguar race entries- 37 cars (good) but 31 of those are 'E' Types (not so good). Unless you like 'E's more than other Jags, of course.....
Hang on is that #55 a CSL?
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Sadly, the historic car demo run through the Castle Donington village is not happening on the Saturday evening this year. Supposedly due to time constraints from the organisers. A great shame as it was well supported by the local population and created a real buzz in the village, and a great social atmosphere.
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Looking forward to getting back to Donington, its been a while!
Grant, what chance of half decent images with a 400mm?
I guess debris fences are on the outside of most corners, are there any places with uninterrupted vision anymore?
Thanks for the warning on the roadworks, hope to arrive Friday around 10.00
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Hang on is that #55 a CSL?
Patrick Blakeney-Edwards has co-driven a CSL in a few events, so I'm assuming it is the same one. Very colourful Jagermeister scheme....

Shame no parade on Saturday, Andy, but will probably make parking and access easier for anyone wanting to eat in CD!
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Looking forward to getting back to Donington, its been a while!
Grant, what chance of half decent images with a 400mm?
I guess debris fences are on the outside of most corners, are there any places with uninterrupted vision anymore?
Thanks for the warning on the roadworks, hope to arrive Friday around 10.00
Hmm.

Inside at Redgate is OK with a 200mm but the background is not great usually. From there down the inside of the Craner curves is reasonable. The outside is all fence but there are one or two points where you can get a slight gap looking back up or down the hill. Recovery vehicle gaps. Very restricted width.

Still on the infield carry on around the barrier line to Schwantz and there are still some options there - or were last time I headed that was a while back.

Assuming the infield is open you can fairly quickly traverse from where the old sparkplug commentary box used to be to the esses back on the other side.

Im not sure if either of the tunnels between McLeans and Coppice will be open for pedestrians but if the old Coppice Tunnel is open that would be a bonus. Outside at Coppice right round by the "No Pedestrians" gate next to the toilet block gives an option to shoot through the fencing with a 400mm on a crop body. It's not ideal but with careful positioning it's possible to get some worthwhile results - partly because the background variations make for something different and there is usually some sort of action at Coppice.

If you have to go around the outside of the circuit .... it's a long way.

Last time I was there for a test day they had left some advertising stuff tied to the tyre barrier after the BSB so that the main part fo that section was blocked for viewing for anyone under about 7ft tall. Poor show I thought. Presumably they were planning to re-use it for BTCC TV cameras so I hope it is removed by now.

Going around the outside from the paddock ... the banking past Redgate at Holly Wood offers some options although the fencing usually means is only works when panning and then watch out for the fence posts positions. To get Redgate exit shots of interest probably requires a 600mm IMO.

Recovery vehicle gaps mainly offer rear views. Of for a couple of snaps but they get boring quickly - especially if there is a tractor in the gap. (Not always the case for clubbies but might be for a "big" meeting). Half ay down the banking between Craner and Old Hairpin it is possible to get high enough to shoot over the fencing for some pan shots.

At the Old Hairpin it's just about possible to shoot through the fence at an angle to capture the turn in point without the fence detracting too much.

Likewise the banking north of the Old Hairpin and on towards what is left of the bridge gives height but even with a 400 there not too much scope for filling frame. You can get some nice shots of massed starts pouring through Craner Curves though and there might be some "action" there.

From the bridge remains through to McLeans and on around to Coppice would have some nice potential if not for the fencing.

The banking on the outside at the rise towards Coppice does allow some fence free viewing but it's a tricky panning opportunity mostly and for much of the day means shooting into the sun. Might work for some unusual stuff in the evening when the sun should be low and directly in line.

It is certainly possible to shoot the McLean exit from there - can be exciting if there is action - but again 400mm is a bit short even when happy making a deep crop. Monopod or Tripod recommended.

Thinking of McLeans - from the infield there should be a few fence free lines available using a 400mm lens but over the years I've never been entirely convinced that the resulting images are interesting. Then again the infield was closed for years and the new infield has a greatly raised spectator area which I have only investigated once so far so there may be some new options to be discovered.

Other than that .... it depends on what there might be available in terms of Grandstands. I suspect just the usual. The one opposite the pits offers some pit stop shots. The permanent one at the pits entrance gives clear panning options but not too much else.

Halfway along the pit building there is a place where the steps up to the media suite offer a small platform for overhead pits shots but it can be full of team members watching what is going on.

If the full GP circuit was to be used there would be some further options related to the loop but they don't come into play for this one.

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We were going to enter last weeks VSCC Fox and Nichols race at Silverstone but it seems they preferred lots of specials to an original F&N car.
The MSL race is so much more representative than VSCC
The Nash jobs will win but we can give it a go,
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Grant, thanks that is a highly detailed response.
The camera will be packed in anticipation.
No doubt we will see you there.
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Mmm, just noticed in the final instructions- no racing engines to be run on Thursday, and not until 0900 other days. Bit awkward when first race of the day starts just after!

I wonder what hours E Midlands Airport operates for take offs and landings......
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Mmm, just notice in the final instructions- no racing engines to be run on Thursday, and not until 0900 other days. Bit awkward when first race of the day starts just after!

I wonder what hours E Midlands Airport operates for take offs and landings......
The no racing engines before 0900 is standard at Donington, Mike.

As for East Midlands Airport ops, I will give you the party line! EMA only actually operates for approx 19% of its available operating time so, although the aircraft engines are noisier than the race car engines there are significant quiet periods between take offs or landings.

In contrast, once practice/qualifying/ racing starts at Donington then there tends to be a near constant engine noise from 0900 until close of play with very few breaks. None petrol heads find this engine noise/ drone irritating apparently!

In addition, EMA employs something like 5000 plus people so, whilst the locals don't like the aircraft noise either, they cut it slack.

I'm not saying I agree with any of that, but that is the crux of the reason why DP tries to limit things. It may even be in line with their planning conditions, and certainly forms part of their noise management plan which the local Council do monitor.

I do know that people shouldn't move near race tracks and airports and then moan about noise, but whether we like it not, we enjoy a minority interest sport and we have to be seen to be good neighbours where possible and not give the moaners any ammunition.

As long as DP operates within its planning conditions and noise management plan it will continue to operate. As soon as it deviates from those rules it can be shut down. Look what happened to Mallory when the old operators there took it upon themselves to operate outside the rules.
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Just a quick one, for anyone interested in going to watch the Rallying and karting demo's, here the timetable and entries for Saturday and Sunday:
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Grant, thanks that is a highly detailed response.
The camera will be packed in anticipation.
No doubt we will see you there.
That would be great but the current plan seems to offer only Friday as an option for me - possible an odd hour or so on Saturday morning and Sunday afternoon.

Family commitments intervene.

Weather forecast looks somewhat like April (mixed) tho' a tad cooler than one might hope given it's the end of the month?

I was at Cadwell today. Apparently they had snow early on. I was too late for that but showers, sleet and hail with some strongish winds mixed with some decent sunshine from time to time. Every time a dry line appeared it rained again.

Fortunately I was only snapping not driving.
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