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Old 16 Apr 2017, 15:57 (Ref:3727067)   #2251
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Whatever happened to the 3 lap rule to serve a penalty? It's just not right for a driver to be allowed to choose when to serve his penalty.
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Old 16 Apr 2017, 16:01 (Ref:3727071)   #2252
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It's the first FCY as it looks like Sainz and Stroll came together and Vettel has got the lead, as Mercedes pit and Hamilton has a rather long pit stop.
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Old 16 Apr 2017, 22:24 (Ref:3727208)   #2253
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Whatever happened to the 3 lap rule to serve a penalty? It's just not right for a driver to be allowed to choose when to serve his penalty.


Because it now can be served with a pitstop, it's because drive thrus could destroy your race for minor infractions
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Old 16 Apr 2017, 22:34 (Ref:3727210)   #2254
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It was anything but a minor infraction, but uugh... fine.
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Old 17 Apr 2017, 01:34 (Ref:3727234)   #2255
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Whatever happened to the 3 lap rule to serve a penalty? It's just not right for a driver to be allowed to choose when to serve his penalty.
I agree.

It is not like Riccciardo chose when he should be impeded!
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Old 17 Apr 2017, 17:05 (Ref:3727361)   #2256
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The way the rule is applied is much better now. It is more consistent in that it doesn't depend on the vagracies of the circuit which mean drive throughs or stop gos result in different time penalties. It also allows shorter pentalties to be given.

Of course you may think that 5s wasn't enough, but the method of applying it is better than the old way.
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Old 17 Apr 2017, 17:58 (Ref:3727366)   #2257
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I disagree, you do the crime, you do the time, but not on your own terms. It's like a criminal being allowed to choose if he wants to serve his sentence in a minimal security prison instead of a maximum security prison. Completely bonkers, to use a silly word.
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Old 17 Apr 2017, 19:24 (Ref:3727382)   #2258
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I disagree, you do the crime, you do the time, but not on your own terms. It's like a criminal being allowed to choose if he wants to serve his sentence in a minimal security prison instead of a maximum security prison. Completely bonkers, to use a silly word.
No, that is definitely NOT an apt comparison at all. The penalty is a 5 sec hold after a STOP, it is not a 5 second stop and hold which is a VERY different penalty. You can complain about the 5 second hold not being enough, which is fair and probably accurate, but the rule was rewritten to free the stewards to be able to apply a penalty of varying amounts of time for different offences. Otherwise a 2,3,5, etc sec hold are basically the same penalty if they have to make an additional stop. Stewards had said in the past they were hesitant to make smaller penalties as the drive-through is a huge penalty and they wanted something smaller. Plus they can debate and consider this longer, and importantly after pitstops, or final lap infringements, this time can be added to the time at the line making all penalties a little more equal in application.


That particular offence and any other safety on pitlane violations should be a stop and hold penalty not a hold penalty. But that is not what most are arguing, at least learn the base of the rule before you whine about incorrect application. The rule was applied correctly under that regulation as it is currently written.
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Old 17 Apr 2017, 19:37 (Ref:3727385)   #2259
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I disagree, you do the crime, you do the time, but not on your own terms. It's like a criminal being allowed to choose if he wants to serve his sentence in a minimal security prison instead of a maximum security prison. Completely bonkers, to use a silly word.
The consequence of what you are saying is that the severity of the penalty (or the maximum or minimum security in your example) would be dependent on the track it occurred at. Postcode lottery the tabloid screams! At Silverstone it would be low as it is quicker to go through the entry to the pits rather than take Club.

So isn't your argument more that 5s was inappropriate (minimum security) rather than how it was given? He didn't get to chose the senate version, but it wasn't enough for you?
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Old 17 Apr 2017, 21:10 (Ref:3727418)   #2260
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I had no idea about these hold penalties even existing, but yes, simply holding him for 5s was not nearly enough of a punishment for what he did.
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Old 19 Apr 2017, 07:12 (Ref:3727688)   #2261
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Old 19 Apr 2017, 09:32 (Ref:3727711)   #2262
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Old 28 Apr 2017, 08:59 (Ref:3729616)   #2263
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News that name and number display is to be enforced is not a new rule, just one that has been ignored. I for one welcome this and especially the use of the number on the helmet. This should, IMO be visible from the roll bar camera
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Old 28 Apr 2017, 15:31 (Ref:3729687)   #2264
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I am glad too they are trying to make numbers more visible, but I'd like to see them on the rear wing endplates like the old days

Also am glad to see they are scrapping the shark fins and t-wings which, let's face it should never have been allowed back
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