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Old 21 Apr 2017, 07:13 (Ref:3728115)   #2761
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I can (almost) understand why MG haven't turned up for the Thruxton testing as they are apparently hardly flush with budget, but for the BMR Subaru's not to bother must indicate some deep down sort of problem I would say (or the most extreme example of sand-bagging in the history of motorsport!).
They've been well off the pace in the first two rounds (discarding Ash Sutton's freak showings last weekend) which is said to be due to a rule change that was forced onto them 'just before the first race'.
As well as the COG adjustment, the series is running new, wider tyres which they obviously have little experience of/data gained from, and then finally, Thruxton's unique abrasive track surface is different to anywhere else where they will be racing.
I'm sure that this will all come out in the wash, but they're being extremely quiet at the moment and I'm beginning to wonder if they're just going to disappear without trace before too long...
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Old 21 Apr 2017, 08:07 (Ref:3728123)   #2762
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I do think that BMR not turning up to testing is a strange one.
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Old 21 Apr 2017, 18:03 (Ref:3728224)   #2763
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I do think that BMR not turning up to testing is a strange one.
They didn't show up to the Barcelona test either, even though they had said they would take part.
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Old 21 Apr 2017, 18:17 (Ref:3728226)   #2764
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Something will out soon enough. JP keeping quiet can only last so long...
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Old 21 Apr 2017, 19:19 (Ref:3728238)   #2765
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They didn't show up to the Barcelona test either, even though they had said they would take part.
Didn't hear of anyone testing at Barcelona, but Portimao??
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Old 21 Apr 2017, 20:31 (Ref:3728248)   #2766
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Didn't hear of anyone testing at Barcelona, but Portimao??
Some coverage of Eurotech's 2017 Barcelona test...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVjY0asSmyA


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Old 21 Apr 2017, 21:03 (Ref:3728252)   #2767
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Jeez, they tested on that shtty little motorcycle track about 50 miles from Barcelona? ROFLMAO no wonder cars got written off.

You can't criticise BMR for not going there.
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You could debate which track resembles the average track on the BTCC calendar better, a little motorcycle track or Barcelona's GP track...
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Jeez, they tested on that shtty little motorcycle track about 50 miles from Barcelona? ROFLMAO no wonder cars got written off.

You can't criticise BMR for not going there.
Given that it was an official Dunlop BTCC test where Dunlop technicians were supporting teams in the use of the new tyres for the season, you have to wonder why BMR passed up the opportunity to gain more understanding of their new car with the tyres?

Aside from Simpson's car, what other cars were written off?
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Old 22 Apr 2017, 07:19 (Ref:3728327)   #2770
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Isn't one write off enough for you then?
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Isn't one write off enough for you then?
Cars have been written off (Simpson's was actually repaired) at most circuits. You referred to multiple, not a singular incident as if it was justification for not testing in Spain?
If the risk of damage was a reason to not test, then why do teams bother at all?

Perhaps teams should not test at Thruxton in case this happens again?

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Old 22 Apr 2017, 08:45 (Ref:3728359)   #2772
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Something will out soon enough. JP keeping quiet can only last so long...
I still think it's a lack of budget thing! They really should have admitted defeat and handed back at least one TBL to focus on fewer cars rather than stretch out an already thin budget for another season. That or sub-contracted two of the Levorgs to a junior team.

Dynamics weren't stupid when Neate's money failed to show. Rather than hang on for another peddler, they handed back the TBL to let someone else have a shot. BMR should have done the same thing when seat 4 was becoming hard to fill rather than jeopardise the whole operation to save face!

Looking at the lack of big personal sponsor stickers on some of the cars I can't see Price and Sutton bringing much to the table, same for Lloyd and Taylor-Swift. So Warren's cash is being further pushed to the max!
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same for Lloyd and Taylor-Swift.
I don't think Taylor Swift would struggle to fund a BTCC entry!

I agree though overall that things seem stretched. A 6-car entry (which they are now to all intents and purposes) alongside the other categories they compete in, would be too much for many teams to manage.

There's a reason Dynamics concentrate on the BTCC alone, and Motorbase have dropped GT racing. And they are two teams with a lot of BTCC experience and consistency with the cars going into 2017.

If the factory supported WSR and Dynamics alongside Motorbase all limit themselves to a 3-car single manufacturer entry, I worry for the relatively inexperienced BMR setup attempting to field 6 cars, with one car being out of production and the other being different to anything else on the grid.
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Old 22 Apr 2017, 21:43 (Ref:3728456)   #2774
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Apologies, forgot the first rule of the BTCC forum, to always remember you are talking with people who don't have any idea at all about motorsport
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Old 23 Apr 2017, 06:13 (Ref:3728549)   #2775
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If the factory supported WSR and Dynamics alongside Motorbase all limit themselves to a 3-car single manufacturer entry, I worry for the relatively inexperienced BMR setup attempting to field 6 cars, with one car being out of production and the other being different to anything else on the grid.
So they run both MG and Subaru "factory" cars? (I noticed the cabins are setup the same.) How bizarre!
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