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Old 23 Mar 2017, 17:25 (Ref:3720948)   #1
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Rounds 1,2,3 Brands Hatch Indy 2017

It that time of year again when the British touring car championship starts its 30 race championship. 32 cars.

Who will be 1st to put it in the gravel?
Who will get pole for race 1?
will the meeting past without a visit from the safety car/red flag?
and who will leave Brands hatch with the points lead?

all questions will be answered next weekend as its time for action
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Old 23 Mar 2017, 18:22 (Ref:3720957)   #2
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It'll be a typical Brands Indy weekend...

I reckon we'll see some decent qualifying from the likes of Ingram, Taylor-Swift and Morgan but races ultimately won by the BMWs and Subarus. Honda will get stuck mid pack and will be down on straight line speed and despite much promotion by ITV4 in the build up, Vauxhall will DNF in a least two of the races and the drivers will have to resort to "we're treating this as an extended shakedown" cover ups in the interviews.

We'll see far too much of Mrs Turkington and Louise Goodman will get someone's name/car/team wrong.
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Old 23 Mar 2017, 18:30 (Ref:3720960)   #3
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It'll be a typical Brands Indy weekend...

I reckon we'll see some decent qualifying from the likes of Ingram, Taylor-Swift and Morgan but races ultimately won by the BMWs and Subarus. Honda will get stuck mid pack and will be down on straight line speed and despite much promotion by ITV4 in the build up, Vauxhall will DNF in a least two of the races and the drivers will have to resort to "we're treating this as an extended shakedown" cover ups in the interviews.

We'll see far too much of Mrs Turkington and Louise Goodman will get someone's name/car/team wrong.
Throw in a 'quali red flagged for 10 minutes after someone dumps it in the gravel all by themselves' and that's pretty much the weekend done and dusted in a few seconds! What'll we do with all the time you've saved us?
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Old 23 Mar 2017, 19:59 (Ref:3720987)   #4
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It'll be a typical Brands Indy weekend...

Honda will get stuck mid pack and will be down on straight line speed
Not much straight on the Indy circuit to be down on speed on, and I guess a 2,3 finish followed by a 1,2 means last year was not a normal Brands Indy?

And Hondas winning R2 and R3 in 2015 was not a normal Brands Indy?

And a Honda winning R1 and R2 in 2014?

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Old 23 Mar 2017, 21:41 (Ref:3721006)   #5
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and JP moaning about RWD start advantage ?
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Old 24 Mar 2017, 05:43 (Ref:3721070)   #6
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Not much straight on the Indy circuit to be down on speed on, and I guess a 2,3 finish followed by a 1,2 means last year was not a normal Brands Indy?

And Hondas winning R2 and R3 in 2015 was not a normal Brands Indy?

And a Honda winning R1 and R2 in 2014?
You're quoting my posts out of context again, then fact checking your own version to make me look stupid.

I'm actually a Neal/Honda fan, but having to learn to accept that this year will be tough as I can't see them pushing the RWD teams unless there's been some pegging back. It's getting to a stage where a Honda win is hard fought (and occasionally dirty I agree), where the RWD wins seemed to be easy looking (usually crossing the line with a decent gap).

*Waits patiently for crmalcolm to quote this post then edit it to his liking and provide a table of every Honda win with gaps to 2nd to suggest that they had it easy*
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Old 24 Mar 2017, 07:07 (Ref:3721079)   #7
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I think that BMW will be the team to beat, especially Turks and Collard as Jordan will be struggling to match the pace of his team mates cause of lack of RWD experience. However my bold prediction is that Subaru will not be that strong as everyone thinks.
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Old 24 Mar 2017, 07:59 (Ref:3721087)   #8
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I think the likely cool temperatures wont help the RWD teams. My money is on Honda and TIngram / Morgan to be at the front. Brands has never really been a RWD circuit.

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Old 24 Mar 2017, 08:55 (Ref:3721102)   #9
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Austin has gone well round Brands Indy in Sherman before, and him and the Avensis seem to be going really well since the later parts of 2016 (Brands GP especially) so I reckon he could get an unlikely win, maybe from R3.
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Old 24 Mar 2017, 09:22 (Ref:3721108)   #10
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It'll be a typical Brands Indy weekend...
What is a typical Brands Indy weekend?

From previous weekends, I would expect that to see Hondas run well, a new, or heavily re-developed car to surprise with a strong showing, and for one of the pre-season favourites to come away with little or no points.

My own preference would be to see a Honda podium lock-out all weekend, but I fear that Simpson may only get on two of the three podiums (pipped by Chilton for the third).
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Old 24 Mar 2017, 09:25 (Ref:3721109)   #11
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You're quoting my posts out of context again, then fact checking your own version to make me look stupid.

I'm actually a Neal/Honda fan, but having to learn to accept that this year will be tough as I can't see them pushing the RWD teams unless there's been some pegging back. It's getting to a stage where a Honda win is hard fought (and occasionally dirty I agree), where the RWD wins seemed to be easy looking (usually crossing the line with a decent gap).

*Waits patiently for crmalcolm to quote this post then edit it to his liking and provide a table of every Honda win with gaps to 2nd to suggest that they had it easy*
Seriously, quit your stupid victim role and stop feeling sorry for yourself. He only quoted the relevant bits and replied to them with arguments. FFS, it's a discussion forum, start a blog if you don't want anybody replying to your posts...
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Old 24 Mar 2017, 09:30 (Ref:3721110)   #12
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I comment that it will be a typical Brands Indy weekend, then give a scenario that is nothing like the previous few years Brands Indy weekend...

So I will wait patiently for crmalcolm to quote this post then edit it to his liking and provide a table of a Honda win with gap to 3rd to suggest that they had it easy
Is this what you are waiting for:

P/No/Independent/Driver/Car/Laps/Gap
1. 52 (M) Gordon Shedden - Honda Civic Type R - Laps 26
2. 25 (M) Matt Neal - Honda Civic Type R - Laps 26 - Gap 0.848
3. 40 (I) Aron Smith - Volkswagen CC - Laps26 - Gap - 3.132


If I see the same result this season, I will join you in celebrating Honda success (in fact anything other than Plato on the podium and I'll be happy).

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Old 24 Mar 2017, 13:56 (Ref:3721198)   #13
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What is a typical Brands Indy weekend?

From previous weekends, I would expect that to see Hondas run well, a new, or heavily re-developed car to surprise with a strong showing, and for one of the pre-season favourites to come away with little or no points.

My own preference would be to see a Honda podium lock-out all weekend, but I fear that Simpson may only get on two of the three podiums (pipped by Chilton for the third).
My reference to 'typical weekend' was more aimed at the fact we'll see some good qually from the young guns, who then fall back during the race itself. The comments regarding Honda more predictions/expectations than anything else.

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Is this what you are waiting for:

P/No/Independent/Driver/Car/Laps/Gap
1. 52 (M) Gordon Shedden - Honda Civic Type R - Laps 26
2. 25 (M) Matt Neal - Honda Civic Type R - Laps 26 - Gap 0.848
3. 40 (I) Aron Smith - Volkswagen CC - Laps26 - Gap - 3.132


If I see the same result this season, I will join you in celebrating Honda success (in fact anything other than Plato on the podium and I'll be happy).
Well played

Agreed, I really hope Honda can make it 3 on the bounce but if not, as much as I dislike Turkington (I personally think he's overated) I really want to see him get his own back at Plato and royally show him up!
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Old 24 Mar 2017, 14:26 (Ref:3721201)   #14
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They are showing the advert for the championship on ITV4 a lot. Can't wait. Can anyone topple Honda? Who will be the better RWD car? How will Vauxhall go? How will Team Parker do now with two experienced hands? And so much more
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Turkington overrated? Really?
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