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View Poll Results: Who do you think the driver of the Grand Prix is?
Lewis Hamilton 6 12.77%
Max Verstappen 21 44.68%
Sebastian Vettel 5 10.64%
Daniel Ricciardo 0 0%
Kimi Räikkönen 1 2.13%
Carlos Sainz 5 10.64%
Fernando Alonso 5 10.64%
Valtteri Bottas 0 0%
Kevin Magnussen 1 2.13%
Sergio Pérez 0 0%
Esteban Ocon 0 0%
Nico Hulkenberg 0 0%
Jolyon Palmer 0 0%
Romain Grosjean 0 0%
Felipe Massa 0 0%
Marcus Ericsson 0 0%
Daniil Kvyat 0 0%
Stoffel Vandoorne 0 0%
Antonio Giovinazzi 1 2.13%
Lance Stroll 2 4.26%
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Old 10 Apr 2017, 00:18 (Ref:3725145)   #16
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newlaprecord has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
For me, Max' first lap and Vettel's back to back moves from P5 to P3 were equally impressive (Perez on Massa was an absolute beauty too)

I also feel that it was def one of the harder fought hat-trick Victories from Hamilton, in variable conditions, in a car, that for the first time in 3 years , does seem to have a match (altough its still safe to say that Mercedes is the best of the grid, it is far from dominant)

A totally wel deserved podium from all 3 guys, let me just vote Magnussen, who put in a decent drive finally.
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Old 10 Apr 2017, 02:40 (Ref:3725168)   #17
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Lewis. Max was extremely good but Lewis was in the zone.
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Old 10 Apr 2017, 07:23 (Ref:3725217)   #18
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Old 10 Apr 2017, 08:28 (Ref:3725232)   #19
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Old 10 Apr 2017, 10:25 (Ref:3725265)   #20
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Old 10 Apr 2017, 17:12 (Ref:3725340)   #21
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who else but the driver who went from P16 to the podium?
The driver who drove his cardboard box to P7 until it decided it couldn't handle him any more.
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Old 11 Apr 2017, 11:16 (Ref:3725494)   #22
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The driver who drove his cardboard box to P7 until it decided it couldn't handle him any more.
Im sort of getting tired of this Alonso hype lately.

Sure he is doing a more than decent job, but driving an underpowered aerodynamical masterpiece like this Mclaren is really not something only one man in this Universe could possibly do so right. Vettel won from pole in an underpowered car, and allow me to think that the aero package of that STR was probably not in the same leauge than what the second oldest, second most successful and second most well-funded team put under Alonso.

Equally tiring to the hype, are his string of less than modest interviews. Its almost like he feels, he needs to tell us everytime he gets out of the car, that me huge hero, car big fat zero...

I really hope that all this self-marketing will land him a Mercedes seat, only to get his ass handed to him by Hamilton (again), as the final accord of this absolute whine-concert of a career....that would be totally fitting
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but driving an underpowered aerodynamical masterpiece like this Mclaren [...] the aero package of that STR was probably not in the same leauge
Just one question, what evidence do you have to suggest the McLaren is an aero-dynamical masterpiece?
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Just one question, what evidence do you have to suggest the McLaren is an aero-dynamical masterpiece?
We've already seen it coast to a stop a few times with zero power, and it goes a reeeeeeaaaaallly long way
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Old 11 Apr 2017, 13:38 (Ref:3725522)   #25
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We've already seen it coast to a stop a few times with zero power, and it goes a reeeeeeaaaaallly long way
Due to good aero, or lack of?

Have Honda got confused with which championship they've entered...
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Old 11 Apr 2017, 20:30 (Ref:3725629)   #26
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Just one question, what evidence do you have to suggest the McLaren is an aero-dynamical masterpiece?
If you have watched F1 for a while, you would be able to tell that this Mclaren goes through corners like its on a railroad, no sliding, no fighting, just really perfect stability. Otherwise , if you havnt watched a lot of racing before, you can just listen to expert commentary on any of the main channels (Im not sure which one you watch) and it will be well-known to you quickly that the Apex-speed of the Mclarens is top-level, and that the car is generally considered to be one of the strongest chassis of the grid.

Alternatively you will be able to find many quotes claiming the same thing. Here is one i digged out for you: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/m...errari-802678/
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From watching I don't see the McLaren being that perfect. I've also read it being questioned that it is so great.
Not suggesting its crap and it might be down to compromises due to the lack of power, but I'm not seeing it as railroad or perfect stability.
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Alternatively you will be able to find many quotes claiming the same thing. Here is one i digged out for you: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/m...errari-802678/
That quote is from McLaren themselves, so they're hardly going to say that their chassis is not good are they! They even admit though that they don't have the best chassis. Boullier's comment says they feel they are in the top three - so basically joint third, behind Mercedes and Red Bull and level with Ferrari.
He says that they are lacking downforce, with a car that has made aerodynamic compromises - not an aerodynamic masterpiece as was claimed previously - so that is hardly going to make them as good through the corners as other cars.

I have found other comment(s) for you.
'Fernando Alonso and Stoffel Vandoorne were observed having a difficult time manhandling the MCL32 [...] Gary Anderson saying "this is not just a very good chassis being let down by the engine"
'Although encouraged by the early chassis impressions, Boullier did admit that the lack of mileage the team has had in testing - allied to having to run in low-power engine modes because of reliability concerns - meant it was not ideal to get a proper gauge on where it stood.'


Compared to other cars on the grid, the car has a slower approach speed to corners, meaning that it has less braking to do. As a result it will obviously be more stable into the corner and so better able to hit the apex and carry what little speed it has into the corner.
It might look on rails, but that is compared to the other cars. As Boullier has admitted, even they don't know exactly where there chassis is, so I am still confused as to where the evidence of it being an aerodynamic masterpiece has come from and not in-house bravado.
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Old 12 Apr 2017, 06:20 (Ref:3725694)   #29
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Carlos Sainz.
* Could stay with the Ferrari's for a very long time.
* Best of the rest
* The only one who made the correct tire choice. The others were lucky they got a semi-free (VSC) or free (SC) pitstop.


Verstappen sounded like Vettel version 2016 today.

if one driver was lucky it was Sainz, lucky to have no damage after he hit he wall after his spin.

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Im sort of getting tired of this Alonso hype lately.
I once asked Stirling Moss about rating drivers when they did not have equal cars ( rather in the style of if Lewis was in a Sauber, and Ericsson in a Mercedes, how they would compare.) Stirling said it was easy to look good in a slower car, but difficult to do the same in the fastest car.

While not knocking Fernando, I do agree with the with the sentiment.
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