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Old 20 Apr 2017, 15:40 (Ref:3727980)   #31
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imo if he finishes the year top 5 in the standings i dont see why they have any incentive to replace one of their own.

if Vettee wins the WDC this year then that might make their decision easier but Kimi is a Ferrari champion and while there are no doubt others that could replace him the Tifosi love Kimi. there is a value to Kimi at Ferrari beyond the usual metrics.
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Old 20 Apr 2017, 19:32 (Ref:3728004)   #32
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Ferrari should dump Raikkonen with immediate effect and put Romain Grosjean in the car.OK, he suffered from bouts of brain fade in his early years but he's matured immensely since then.

Most importantly, he's always been seriously quick, and is potentially at his prime right now. The guy is underrated and deserves his chance with a top flight team. I'm convinced he has the speed, and the desire, to rival Vettel.
He's still very inconsistent though.
He was nowhere in China.
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Old 21 Apr 2017, 08:53 (Ref:3728121)   #33
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imo if he finishes the year top 5 in the standings i dont see why they have any incentive to replace one of their own.

if Vettee wins the WDC this year then that might make their decision easier but Kimi is a Ferrari champion and while there are no doubt others that could replace him the Tifosi love Kimi. there is a value to Kimi at Ferrari beyond the usual metrics.
If Vettee wins the WDC and Ferrari don't win the WCC, that's purely down to lack of performance from Kimi. That is a problem IMO.
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Old 21 Apr 2017, 09:36 (Ref:3728127)   #34
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there is a value to Kimi at Ferrari beyond the usual metrics.
Indeed. He brings (ironically, considering his approach) a great PR and brand value. He brings home solid points.

But gosh, he's like the underperformer in the office that's been there so long that the boss can't afford to pay redundancy to.

I was a huge Kimi fan in 2001-2007. But that was 10 years ago. I honestly think he was flattered by the Lotus-Renault. Grosjean, who was a far less complete driver than he is now, was often quicker. I feel that if Kubica hadn't been injured, that car would've been a championship challenger.

Now, when I watch Lewis, Daniel or Max behind a slower car , you know the pass will happen in a few laps. When it's Kimi, you can go to the loo, make a cuppa and come back and know he'll still be behind.
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Old 21 Apr 2017, 10:57 (Ref:3728139)   #35
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Agreed.

If Klml can't cruise by, using DRS on the straight, then he'll seldom overtake anyone.His starts are woeful, he looses way too much time over the first few laps and displays a singular lack of aggression. He appears to have settled for 3rd or 4th place even before the race starts. I think any reasonable driver in this years Ferrari could do that.......and for less money.

Sure he's something of a character, but I'd like to see a real charger in the 2nd car keeping Vettel honest. Right now, Kimi doesn't deserve the 2nd Ferrari seat.
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Old 22 Apr 2017, 02:40 (Ref:3728285)   #36
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Old 22 Apr 2017, 09:22 (Ref:3728349)   #37
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Yes everyone will when the performance comes. At the moment either the team isn't giving him what he needs (as he has suggested by in race difficulties over the radio) or he is not extracting the most out of what he has which is difficult to ignore when it has won 2 out of 3 races.
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Problem for KR is the 2017 Ferrari was built around SV, who likes the car with more bias towards rear end grip. And KR likes a car with more front end grip.

And as we all know, when KR is not happy with the car he just doesn't... care. He'll grumble and swear on the radio about how bad the car is. Then miraculously, get his act together when contract negotiations are underway. Then he doesn't care anymore. Repeat.

Not really sure how KR has any fans. At Melbourne for example, the drivers have to walk through what is known as The Fan Zone, where everyone (drivers, ex-drivers, team principles, etc. etc) stop for photos and signatures with the fans. Kimi doesn't. He ignores them. And even ran through it last year. On the one occasion where he did stop, the team took photos while he signed something for a fan. As soon as the photos were taken, he walked past all the other fans and didn't stop again. Way to go Kimi.
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Applaud people for giving something to the fans, like Hamilton throwing the caps to the fans in China, but there is no need to vilify someone who doesn't. It's like giving to charity, great if you do, but you are not evil if you don't. If you do put down those who don't you diminish those that do as it then becomes a must rather than a special extra effort.
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Old 22 Apr 2017, 22:33 (Ref:3728455)   #42
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Not really sure how KR has any fans. At Melbourne for example, the drivers have to walk through what is known as The Fan Zone, where everyone (drivers, ex-drivers, team principles, etc. etc) stop for photos and signatures with the fans. Kimi doesn't. He ignores them. And even ran through it last year. On the one occasion where he did stop, the team took photos while he signed something for a fan. As soon as the photos were taken, he walked past all the other fans and didn't stop again. Way to go Kimi.
I think that approach is part of the reason he does have so many fans. He's not interested in doing things to please people, he does what pleases him and some fans like that.
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Applaud people for giving something to the fans, like Hamilton throwing the caps to the fans in China, but there is no need to vilify someone who doesn't. It's like giving to charity, great if you do, but you are not evil if you don't. If you do put down those who don't you diminish those that do as it then becomes a must rather than a special extra effort.
The fans ultimately pay their salary. Without fans no sponsors, no money, no race. If you do not want to care about fans, do not make it your profession to go pro sports. Lewis understood this best among the current crop of drivers.

That said, I have no clue about Kimi's fan interaction.
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F1 drivers these days at least seem to be more aware of what the fans want from them. Lewis, Seb, Felipe and the Honey Badger seem to be the best at it, which is good
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The fans ultimately pay their salary. Without fans no sponsors, no money, no race. If you do not want to care about fans, do not make it your profession to go pro sports. Lewis understood this best among the current crop of drivers.

That said, I have no clue about Kimi's fan interaction.
What if you just want to drive? Given Kimi went off and drove Rally and Trucks, I don't think he does it because he wants to be a pro sportsman - he just wants to drive cars.
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