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Old 1 Feb 2012, 22:33 (Ref:3020021)   #651
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Ethanol and methanol are alot different com nitro though
Well they use a methanol-nitromethane mix in top fuel cars, don't they, and you definitely can't drink methanol or nitromethane, but if you're an alkie then ethanol may be to your taste...
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Old 1 Feb 2012, 23:12 (Ref:3020034)   #652
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hmm it's almost too quiet on the NZV8 front? i was expecting at least press release after all that's been going on this week. any chance there will be a surprise at the Manfeild round...

will the FG turn up with a newly fitted coyote + 6 speed?

will a new gen VE make an appearance?

will i get hired as the NZV8's promo manager and get paid with beer and promo girls?

or will things stay the same?
I'd go with 'unlikely' three times, and one 'probably'
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Old 2 Feb 2012, 04:53 (Ref:3020098)   #653
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hmmm

which do i get first.. beer or promo girls?
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Old 2 Feb 2012, 06:43 (Ref:3020109)   #654
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Thanks for the link, the car looks good. But I wonder why the Hayden MacKenzie Motorsport stuff has disappeared. Isn't their current kit for sale?

Start with the beer first, then all the girls will look good
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Old 2 Feb 2012, 21:43 (Ref:3020681)   #655
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the "new generation nzv8" decal on the windscreen is the only change. besides there wasn't much HMM stuff on the new car to start with
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Old 2 Feb 2012, 21:53 (Ref:3020690)   #656
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How much stuff isn't really the issue. I don't understand why one of the leading participants in this new-gen NZV8 no longer has a presence on the car, appears to have dropped out of the current championship, and I hear the gear's all for sale. Isn't that all a bit odd?
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Old 2 Feb 2012, 22:17 (Ref:3020707)   #657
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How much stuff isn't really the issue. I don't understand why one of the leading participants in this new-gen NZV8 no longer has a presence on the car, appears to have dropped out of the current championship, and I hear the gear's all for sale. Isn't that all a bit odd?
You are just **** stirring now.

When Bargs tested it last week (or earlier this week . . .I cant remember anymore) it still has Haydn's name on the side and HMM on the boot.

http://imgur.com/a/96V0Y

Build a bridge.

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Old 2 Feb 2012, 22:25 (Ref:3020712)   #658
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Your response indicates that you assume I'm against the new-gen car succeeding. That I'm **** stirring. Build a bridge - mate, I have nothing to get over.

Too many assumptions. I hope they end up with a really good car, and sell enough to have a cracking season. But that still doesn't stop me from wondering why things appear as they do, and asking why.

PS I just checked your link and saw the name on the side. I missed that before.

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Old 2 Feb 2012, 23:14 (Ref:3020746)   #659
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Your response indicates that you assume ....

PS I just checked your link and saw the name on the side. I missed that before.
Yeah ok, appologies to you on that then. I too am a NZV8 fan and used to be against V8ST but am warming up to their series now too. (I wish wish wish we could all just race together)

I also wish this thread could be turned back into a NZV8 race scene gossip column, who is entered for the next round, who has brought who's car, who drove like a fool and who had a great weekend . . . . .

Peace out.

(Wooley . . . appologies for the autosensor thing, I felt bad for typing the word ****, and pooh and fudge didn't feel right. From now on I will just ****ing swear like a ****ing trooper god dammit. )
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Old 2 Feb 2012, 23:27 (Ref:3020754)   #660
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Nice pictures on that link, but once again, there is nothing to show any engine/gearbox developments. Which begs the question, has any of this 'new' gear actually been installed and tested?

You would think if it had been tested, and a success, they would be bleating on about it big time, with photos for africa showing the new engine (with fuel injection) and a proper seq box. And if Bargs did test the new gear then where is the youtube footage?

I hate to point out the obvious here.....but what the heck is going on with the NZV8 next gen car? is it dead in the water?

Seems that way to me anyway
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Old 2 Feb 2012, 23:28 (Ref:3020757)   #661
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Manfeild Round 5 10-12 Feb

2 Angus Fogg
4 Simon Richards
5 Martin Short
007 Nick Ross
9 Alan McCarrison
11 Simon Evans
12 Jason Bargwanna
16 Phil Blythe
19 Dwayne Carter
20 Haydn Mackenzie
26 Tim Edgell
40 Bronson Porter
70 Andrew Anderson
74 Ross Cameron

hopefully we'll see Michael Bristow's name added to this list
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Old 2 Feb 2012, 23:30 (Ref:3020759)   #662
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It would pay to remember that the NZV8 car is still a year away from racing.
I'd be more worried about those due to race in a week
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Nice pictures on that link, but once again, there is nothing to show any engine/gearbox developments. Which begs the question, has any of this 'new' gear actually been installed and tested?

You would think if it had been tested, and a success, they would be bleating on about it big time, with photos for africa showing the new engine (with fuel injection) and a proper seq box. And if Bargs did test the new gear then where is the youtube footage?

I hate to point out the obvious here.....but what the heck is going on with the NZV8 next gen car? is it dead in the water?

Seems that way to me anyway
here you go
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3 sec quicker with old spec drivetrain.
Now who was that whinger a while back going on about how useless these guys where at chassis building? Lol
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Old 2 Feb 2012, 23:50 (Ref:3020778)   #665
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How do you reckon they'll go with parity between the General and Henry? I know they can chip them but it's also about the shape of the torque curve and how well the chassis puts the power down out of the bends, etc. etc.

I'd have to say the bigger capacity donks would have the advantage on our twisty tracks, except perhaps Puke as long as the Fords are allowed to rev higher.

Comments anyone? I am purely surmising.
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Old 3 Feb 2012, 00:00 (Ref:3020783)   #666
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ask the aussie ute boys

they're running the coyote engine this year and will have completed 7 out of 8 rounds of their championship before the next NZV8 season has even started.
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Old 3 Feb 2012, 00:03 (Ref:3020786)   #667
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Thanks for that link promax, that answered all of my questions

So it still looks like a goer then?
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if done correctly.. there's no reason why series can't carry on.
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if done correctly.. there's no reason why series can't carry on.
Aha, and those first three words say it all, really...

I think it's a pity they didn't do this 2 seasons ago, would have saved a lot of hassle for everyone.

What is the ready to race cost of the MRX car, does anyone know yet? Not including tyres and assuming you already have access to a workshop...
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the initial estimate is $150,000 turn key
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...hopefully we'll see Michael Bristow's name added to this list
Yeah, but in whose car? I don't think the repairs have been completed since his Puke tangle.
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the initial estimate is $150,000 turn key
Will be interesting to see if that has gone up by next season. Still a lot cheaper than a V8 Supercar but not that much cheaper than a V8ST, and having supplied several cars they are fairly sure of the price.

My understanding of things is that the old NZV8's cost a lot of money to keep on the track as opposed to initial purchase price, I would expect the new car should not have quite the same issues?
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add on another $63,000 for a ST kitset.. then add on 3-4 months of your time to put the thing together
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add on another $63,000 for a ST kitset.. then add on 3-4 months of your time to put the thing together
May I call you PM promax? It has a stately sound to it don't you think, and it's easier to type too.

Anyway, formalities aside. Where do you get 3-4 months to screw these puppies together?
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.. or longer

the chassis started coming into the country back in August/September(?).. so far we've only seen a handful of completed cars... and that's only in the last couple of weeks.
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