sports sedans in 2009

kowalski the lone driver · 6 Mar 2009, 10:30 (Ref:2410211)

whats going on? are we gunna have some big grids? any fujitsu or cup car rejects going to upgrade themselves to a better category?

profi · 6 Mar 2009, 10:43 (Ref:2410218)

seems to be a lot of new cars being built. From what ive heard sports sedan grid numbers will grow to a healthy size over the next couple of years.

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If your referring to porches there not allowed to run.

speedraced04 · 6 Mar 2009, 12:18 (Ref:2410306)

how come porsches arent able to run, im not familiar with the SS rules

on a side note, whatever happened to dean randle? seems to have dropped off the face of the earth

profi · 7 Mar 2009, 01:16 (Ref:2410729)

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Originally Posted by speedraced04

how come porsches arent able to run, im not familiar with the SS rules

on a side note, whatever happened to dean randle? seems to have dropped off the face of the earth

You arnt allowed to have a rear engined car even if it come from the factory that way. But you can run a front engined porsche.

Dean has been building a new SAAB, underneath very similar to hossacks car.

**GTRMagic** · 7 Mar 2009, 06:49 (Ref:2410817)

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Originally Posted by profi

You arnt allowed to have a rear engined car even if it come from the factory that way. But you can run a front engined porsche.

Dean has been building a new SAAB, underneath very similar to hossacks car.

Didnt the 935 run in the Sports Sedan class many moons ago?

Silver 3 · 7 Mar 2009, 06:52 (Ref:2410818)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Didnt the 935 run in the Sports Sedan class many moons ago?

Yes, it used to smack them-- hence they banned Porsche ever since.

Tourer · 7 Mar 2009, 07:23 (Ref:2410826)

Yep - it was when the GT and Sports Sedans were run as one championship (now, that's an idea).

The 935s were run as GT cars, not sports sedans.

935 spanked them (did have the just returned from F1 former world champion driving of course). Even Rusty French managed to get his up near the front at times so they were a very quick thing by the standard of the day.

Tourer · 7 Mar 2009, 07:25 (Ref:2410828)

Sorry - double post

Dasher · 7 Mar 2009, 04:12 (Ref:2410785)

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Originally Posted by speedraced04

how come porsches arent able to run, im not familiar with the SS rules

on a side note, whatever happened to dean randle? seems to have dropped off the face of the earth

Dean has been building a new car to keep up with Hossack's Audi (what a weapon) which should debut this season.

sorry profi missed your posting before i posted.

Silver 3 · 7 Mar 2009, 04:18 (Ref:2410787)

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Originally Posted by speedraced04

how come porsches arent able to run, im not familiar with the SS rules

on a side note, whatever happened to dean randle? seems to have dropped off the face of the earth

The Porsche's are too fast -- so like all categories the existing owners are very defensive about their patch .

roverboy · 9 Mar 2009, 13:24 (Ref:2412161)

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Originally Posted by Silver 3

The Porsche's are too fast -- so like all categories the existing owners are very defensive about their patch .

Morgan Park last weekend - Fastest lap for a home made sports sedan with average fat bloke behind the wheel 63.4 sec.

Fastest lap for factory built Porsche 65.3 sec - Enough said!!

profi · 9 Mar 2009, 13:29 (Ref:2412166)

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Originally Posted by roverboy

Morgan Park last weekend - Fastest lap for a home made sports sedan with average fat bloke behind the wheel 63.4 sec.

Fastest lap for factory built Porsche 65.3 sec - Enough said!!

wow imagine a chizzled out European behind the wheel, 62s could be a chance.

Sandown 108.5 to 111.9

Silver 3 · 10 Mar 2009, 00:13 (Ref:2412652)

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Originally Posted by profi

wow imagine a chizzled out European behind the wheel, 62s could be a chance.

Sandown 108.5 to 111.9

You are still comparing with a CupCar running to a strict set of regulations.
If you are all so right--then why ban them.

Silver 3 · 10 Mar 2009, 00:10 (Ref:2412650)

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Originally Posted by roverboy

Morgan Park last weekend - Fastest lap for a home made sports sedan with average fat bloke behind the wheel 63.4 sec.

Fastest lap for factory built Porsche 65.3 sec - Enough said!!

So some guy in a Sportscar is 2 seconds plus a lap faster than the SS --it proves what? And means even less.

Sheep Stations · 10 Mar 2009, 01:06 (Ref:2412674)

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Originally Posted by roverboy

Morgan Park last weekend - Fastest lap for a home made sports sedan with average fat bloke behind the wheel 63.4 sec.

Fastest lap for factory built Porsche 65.3 sec - Enough said!!

Fastest lap in that factory built 400hp Porsche was with a very average fat bloke too. Carrera Cup testing at Morgan Park last year David Wall does 60 flat consistently.

Your argument has as much relevance as a beta video recorder. We're talking about 700 hp turbos having a crack.

mildura1963 · 6 Mar 2009, 22:09 (Ref:2410636)

Can't wait to see the new Aston Martin SS...

speedraced04 · 7 Mar 2009, 06:36 (Ref:2410812)

thanks for the answers guys

mildura1963 · 7 Mar 2009, 23:57 (Ref:2411279)

I remember Peter Fizgerald used to run a Porsche S/S at Amaroo bank in the 80's.

Green Hornet · 8 Mar 2009, 00:23 (Ref:2411285)

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Originally Posted by mildura1963

I remember Peter Fizgerald used to run a Porsche S/S at Amaroo bank in the 80's.

and beaten more times than not by the Bob Stevens' Monaro

Silver 3 · 8 Mar 2009, 02:01 (Ref:2411312)

When did they invent the idea of excluding the rear engined Porsche?

racer69 · 8 Mar 2009, 02:12 (Ref:2411316)

In the late-70s the Porsche's were moved from Sports Sedans into Production Sports Cars, when they Australian Sportscar Championship moved to these regs.

In 1982 when the Sports Sedan Championship became a GT Championship (and the ASCC was run for Group A Sportscars, not production sportscars) they were allowed to compete as they were classed as GT cars. Circa-1986 the GT racing went back to being Sports Sedan racing (though there was no national title)

Silver 3 · 8 Mar 2009, 05:42 (Ref:2411365)

You a making the incorrect presumption that GT2 could not be competetive.Porsche reliability and consistency with speed thereabouts would see it with a chance.It is the dumbness of our contrived categories that prevents cross entering -it would add interest to the racing.

profi · 8 Mar 2009, 05:50 (Ref:2411367)

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Originally Posted by Silver 3

You a making the incorrect presumption that GT2 could not be competetive.Porsche reliability and consistency with speed thereabouts would see it with a chance.It is the dumbness of our contrived categories that prevents cross entering -it would add interest to the racing.

I dont car who is racing as long as there is numbers.
then you can say i beat porsches regularly

The hare and the tortoise.

Silver 3 · 8 Mar 2009, 07:28 (Ref:2411392)

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Originally Posted by profi

I dont car who is racing as long as there is numbers.
then you can say i beat porsches regularly

The hare and the tortoise.

I love really fast cars and the complications with making them and driving them.No doubt about front running sports sedans pace-terrific cars. Interesting across the Tasman they have pretty much allcomers with a roof able to race together.

profi · 8 Mar 2009, 07:47 (Ref:2411395)

Australia v New Zealand one race a year??????

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