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Old 22 Aug 2009, 17:21 (Ref:2526156)   #1
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How bright does a BBC presenter need to be?

Or rather, how thick do you have to be to fail the exam for a racing licence?

We had several threads here recently, where people agonised over taking the ARDS test to gaina race licence. Most of us old lags urged them to chill, as it was easy-peasy, if you did a tiny bit of homework.

Jake Humphrey, the remarkably junior lead presenter for BBC F1, announced today in the run-up to qualifying at Velencia, that he had applied for an MSA race licence. He was then shown at Silverstone, failing the multiple choice exam that you must pass before you can go on track. He got six out of twenty(?) questions wrong, when the pass was no more than two.

Mr.Humphrey clearly does his homework for his pit lane talks with Eddie and David, though he does consult his clipboard rather often. Why no homework, when his lack of preparation for this little test would (should?) have led to ignominious failure? In fact he was allowed to take it again, perhaps after a quick revision and passed, full marks. But then anyone who bothers to watch more than once the "Going Racing" video that comes with your Starter Pack should pass with full marks.

Or am I being naive, and this was a cynical PR stunt to show the punters he's 'one of us'?

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Old 22 Aug 2009, 17:34 (Ref:2526159)   #2
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Or am I being naive, and this was a cynical PR stunt to show the punters he's 'one of us'?

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I shared your surprise when I watched it but I suspect your last paragraph contains more than a grain of truth.
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Old 22 Aug 2009, 20:29 (Ref:2526254)   #3
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As he did the test on a one to one basis with Mark,who is very good at his job by the way, but does not suffer fools etc,I was quite surprised he passed the driving section. Would suspect he got the job through a friend or relation already in the BBC.
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Old 22 Aug 2009, 21:11 (Ref:2526264)   #4
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I don't remember attempting to drift a Caterham around some cones on my test...
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Old 22 Aug 2009, 21:18 (Ref:2526268)   #5
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When I done the ards I never got to play with the catherham!!
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Old 22 Aug 2009, 21:33 (Ref:2526276)   #6
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I think that BBC piece really confused the ARDS process if anything, like the last two posts have said. However I believe Silverstone do thie process a bit differently for the ARDS don't they?

Just seemed a totally pointless exercise that came out the blue. If he was going to end up racing something then they could attempt a diary story out of it, but it just seemed to abruptly end?
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Old 23 Aug 2009, 15:33 (Ref:2526689)   #7
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Slightly cynically I wonder if the TV licence fee payers payed for the day as well as I am sure it wouldnt have come out of his pocket

Of course he had to resit the written paper as if hehadnt ben allowed to it would have been the end of the programme but i do wonder why he has done it unless there are plans for a diary programme on his racing something
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Old 23 Aug 2009, 15:59 (Ref:2526709)   #8
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Slightly cynically I wonder if the TV licence fee payers payed for the day as well as I am sure it wouldnt have come out of his pocket

Of course he had to resit the written paper as if hehadnt ben allowed to it would have been the end of the programme but i do wonder why he has done it unless there are plans for a diary programme on his racing something
Well he might have decided he wanted to do it on his own, and then the BBC decided to capitalise on it? And if the license fee did fun it well, there are more lucrative things our money has been spent on. Top Gear Cheap Car Challenges, anyone?
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Old 23 Aug 2009, 19:19 (Ref:2526827)   #9
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Would suspect he got the job through a friend or relation already in the BBC.
I suspect he got the job because he was the best candidate. He's been a revelation to many this year.

Who would you have rather done it, Ray Stubbs, Gary Lineker, Gabby Logan or Adrian Chiles?
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Old 23 Aug 2009, 19:35 (Ref:2526839)   #10
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The Caterham is part of the training that Silverstone can offer. It does not form part of the ARDS. test itself It was actually 4 questions they said he got wrong and not 6 but I was pretty shocked he failed as when I did my ARDS at Silverstone, only 1 in 25+ drivers failed the written so it really isnt very hard and Im sure back then you had to get 100% right?
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Old 24 Aug 2009, 08:06 (Ref:2527117)   #11
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I think he does an OK job as a presenter, so what if he failed the ARDS.
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Old 24 Aug 2009, 09:16 (Ref:2527147)   #12
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nice to have a presenter that doesnt take himself too seriously imho and to be fair passing an ARDS test wont make him any better or worse as a presenter. He seems to get on with the drivers better than some, and get more out of them as a result and isnt the toss pot that Eddie Jordan is. Eddie was a reasonably successful racer but doesnt make him a good presenter
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You never know, he might want to spend the day as a Marshal next.. ?
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I've always thought that Jake does a fantastic job as a presenter actually; I'm jolly impressed. I missed the ARDS test feature, but from what's been said here I expect he did no preparation at all and was distracted by filming. I agree with others; I remember my ARDS test being pretty easy.
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EP e-mailed F1@bbc.co.uk and suggested that.

I do think that there may have been a certain level of "show" for the cameras with the first time fail. If he had breezed it and scored 100% first time around then your average punter would have been "yeah, yeah, he's an F1 guy, of course he would get 100%" but by showing a "fail" it makes your average bloke think "fair enough, there might be something in this racing lark".

The BBC has also been more active than some in the promotion of the GoMotorsport campaign as I've heard it mentioned a few times now.
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EP e-mailed F1@bbc.co.uk and suggested that.

I do think that there may have been a certain level of "show" for the cameras with the first time fail. If he had breezed it and scored 100% first time around then your average punter would have been "yeah, yeah, he's an F1 guy, of course he would get 100%" but by showing a "fail" it makes your average bloke think "fair enough, there might be something in this racing lark".

The BBC has also been more active than some in the promotion of the GoMotorsport campaign as I've heard it mentioned a few times now.

I actually went on jake's blog and suggested it.
i usually get the chance to watch the free practice on the red button, and the majority of times they have a 5 minute natter about Marshals and how to get in to it, but coverage is a lot better these days, the only thing that lets it down is EJ wardrobe choice....
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Judging by the occaisional look on Marks face [instructor] I would have thought there were one or two issues on the driving section.
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I have a complete Marshalling film treatment [plan] that's been sitting on my desk for ages, so I've sent it into the beeb and see what they say about it. I also did a verson of the ARDS test but unfortunately a) I lost the sound on both cameras, and b) we weren't allowed to put a camera on the car or in the exam room - the advantage of being the BBC and being able to afford a private test!

I turned it into a 1930s style comedy piece instead.

Update : Here it is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynYaisqVBw8

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The Caterham is part of the training that Silverstone can offer. It does not form part of the ARDS. test itself It was actually 4 questions they said he got wrong and not 6 but I was pretty shocked he failed as when I did my ARDS at Silverstone, only 1 in 25+ drivers failed the written so it really isnt very hard and Im sure back then you had to get 100% right?
Nope, he said "Four on the first page".

Woops!

I do like Jake, In fact I really like him, and thoroughly enjoy his blog. more importantly, the drivers seem to like him too.

I can't imagine Steve Ryder going out for a days mountain biking with Mark Webber!
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Just seemed a totally pointless exercise that came out the blue. If he was going to end up racing something then they could attempt a diary story out of it, but it just seemed to abruptly end?
He's doing the MSVR Lotus series at Silverstone on Oct 10th
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Have you been listening to Radio 1 as well ?
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