F5000 Programmes

**Peter Mallett** · 3 Mar 2006, 09:13 (Ref:1535232)

Taken from the Historic Motorsport Show Thread

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Originally Posted by allenbrown

Here's a question for you. Were you at the F5000 races in Aug 1971, Mar 1976, Aug 1976, Mar 1977 or Oct 1977? For some reason it's the Snetterton entry lists that are proving hardest to find. Full story here

Allen

allenbrown · 3 Mar 2006, 10:12 (Ref:1535283)

Hi Peter

Thanks for doing this. I was picking up on Andy's admission of slight rust from his days at Snetterton.

Allen

TimD · 3 Mar 2006, 12:45 (Ref:1535405)

According to my library catalogue I've got two more, but I'll have to dig them out. The boxes are quite far down the pile!

As soon as I can, Castle Combe May 15 '71 and Thruxton May 31 '76 will be scanned and PM'd.

allenbrown · 3 Mar 2006, 12:48 (Ref:1535408)

Good man Tim!

TimD · 3 Mar 2006, 12:53 (Ref:1535410)

I'll still send the scan, but you might be able to make use of the Castle Combe entry list as abbreviated into my own records.

Peter Gethin 1 McLaren M18
Tony Dean 2 McLaren M7A
John Butterworth 4 McLaren M10B
Jock Russell 5 Lotus 70
Graham McRae 6 McLaren M18
Ulf Norinder 7 McLaren M18
Ray Allen 8 McLaren M10B
Kaye Griffiths 10 Lola T190
Trevor Taylor 11 Lola LT25
Howden Ganley 12 McLaren M18
Mike Hailwood 15 Surtees TS8
Tony Lanfranchi 19 Surtees TS5
David Prophet 21 McLaren M10B
Keith Holland 25 McLaren M10B
Frank Gardner 30 Lola T192
Bob Miller 41 Dulon LD8
Gordon Spice 44 McLaren M10B
Rob Taylor 57 McLaren M10A/B
Fred Saunders 66 Crossle 15F
Mike Walker 77 Lola T192
"Ippocastano" 26 Cooper T86B
Robs Lamplough 69 Lamplola

allenbrown · 3 Mar 2006, 13:17 (Ref:1535421)

That's very useful Tim. When you find the programs, would you mind sending a scan of the front cover as well. They will prove useful when I make all this material directly available (as well as incorporating it into the results database).

Thanks

Allen

davyboy · 3 Mar 2006, 13:21 (Ref:1535426)

Allen did you get Mondello 1972 and 1974 from me ? I passed them to Chris Townsend a while back. In case you didn't, PM me your e-mail address and I can send you the scans.

allenbrown · 3 Mar 2006, 13:25 (Ref:1535431)

No, those are still both on my 'missing' list. Chris may have used them when he compiled the results originally but not realised that I didn't have them. My email is allen@oldracingcars.com.

Many thanks

Allen

allenbrown · 3 Mar 2006, 13:37 (Ref:1535441)

In light of Davy's offer, let me widen the search a little. There are also 23 overseas programs outstanding: Anderstorp (1970), Hockenheim (1969, 1970, 1971), Koksijde (1969), Misano (1973), Mondello Park (1969, 1970, 1971, 1973), Monza (1970, 1971, 1974), Mugello (1974), Nivelles-Baulers (1972), Salzburgring (1970), Zandvoort (1969, 1970, Jul 1973, Sep 1973, 1975) and Zolder (1970, 1975).

Davy - I was wrong about Mondello 1974; Patrick Sumner already sent me that one.
But I do need the 1972 one.

Allen

davyboy · 3 Mar 2006, 13:58 (Ref:1535453)

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Originally Posted by allenbrown

Davy - I was wrong about Mondello 1974; Patrick Sumner already sent me that one.
But I do need the 1972 one.

Allen, just sent it to you now. Let me know that you got it OK.

allenbrown · 3 Mar 2006, 14:40 (Ref:1535486)

Thanks Davy!

Tim 27 · 3 Mar 2006, 21:27 (Ref:1535716)

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Would you be willing to lend those two programs to me so I can scan the relevent parts and post them back to you?

No problem Allen. The cover of the March meeting is a little tatty, other than that they are both in excellent condition.
P.M. me your address and I will send them Recorded Delivery early next week.

Let me know if you need any others (Snetterton Formula Atlantic etc) or anything else I may be able to assist with.

allenbrown · 3 Mar 2006, 23:28 (Ref:1535802)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim 27

Let me know if you need any others (Snetterton Formula Atlantic etc) or anything else I may be able to assist with.

Tim

Could you look at our Formula Atlantic list as well? It's here. That search is also going very well but there are lots of gaps in the 1979 and 1980 seasons as well as a good few in other years.

Allen

Tim 27 · 3 Mar 2006, 21:56 (Ref:1535743)

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The full results of that race are here.

Having just read these results I can answer my own question relating to Damien Magees first lap shunt. August meeting and on the first lap, not the second or third as I earlier stated.

Another note to self: READ CONTENT OF ALL POSTS BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS!!!

davyboy · 3 Mar 2006, 14:53 (Ref:1535498)

... and if anyone's interested in going beyond programmes, Ulf Norinder's Lola T142 [SL142/37], the one he raced at Mondello Park and elsewhere in 1969, is for sale on eBay at the moment. Its item number 4618495085 and looks absolutely fabulous. Its in Autosport too for GBP58,750.

**John Turner** · 3 Mar 2006, 15:04 (Ref:1535508)

It is also advertised in the April edition of Classic & Sportscar for £58,750. I wonder what reserve has been placed on it on ebay?

davyboy · 3 Mar 2006, 18:27 (Ref:1535587)

There's only one way to find out John... :-) The car looks in fantastic condition from the pictures doesn't it. There are more here... and some of wild-man Ulf as well. His main claim to fame was as a sportscar driver rather than a single seater protagonist... I guess you can see why from the picture of him next to his Camaro :-)

http://www.autocherish.co.uk/picture...annel=Pictures

allenbrown · 3 Mar 2006, 18:40 (Ref:1535595)

Slight problem is that there are two cars with this chassis number - one in England and one in NZ. And I'm not convinced that either is the Norinder car as it was so comprehensively wrecked in 1970. Neither car has a complete provenance.

Allen

davyboy · 3 Mar 2006, 19:36 (Ref:1535634)

That's a real pity alright.

**John Turner** · 3 Mar 2006, 19:36 (Ref:1535635)

Davyboy, I could manage £5.87 if you can manage the rest!

Allen, your post is a classic example of why we need you to stick around ..... please!

allenbrown · 3 Mar 2006, 20:34 (Ref:1535672)

I'm not going anywhere!

Tim 27 · 3 Mar 2006, 20:49 (Ref:1535678)

I have just dug out my programmes from the 76 season that include both the March 27th-28th and August 1st F5000 events at Snetterton.
Unfortunately I don't have access to a digital camera or scanner at present, so will list the entry list for the March meeting & ask questions afterwards.

NO: DRIVER CAR CC
3 DAMIEN MAGEE MARCH FORD 751 3412
4 BRIAN ROBINSON LOLA FORD 1996
6 BILL GUBELMANN MARCH FORD 732 1996
7 DAVID PURLEY CHEVRON FORD B30 3412
11 LUIGI CEVASCO BRABHAM BT42 2994
13 DAVINA GALICA SURTEES FORD TS16 2996
15 VALENTINO MUSETTI MARCH FORD 752 1996
17 LIVIO PONZONE DYWA 75 CHEVROLET 4920
21 BRIAN McGUIRE WILLIAMS FORD FW04 2998
30 TBA BOXER FORD PR276 1996
31 RIKKY PEIRCE SURTEES FORD TS16B 2998
99 JOHN CANNON MARCH 4992

START TIME 15.00 40 LAPS

I was only 9 at the time but still have some vague memories of both meetings.
Am I right in saying that David Purley won the March event with Damien Magee second?
My Dad filled in the results from the August meeting but didn't bother with the
March event.
I was interested to note that my programme has Emilio De Villota down as a non starter in the August meeting but Andrew has his car listed as Blue/White.
I can also remember Damien Magee having a hefty shunt right in front of me at the exit of Russell on the second or third lap. Not sure if this was the March or August meeting though. I have some photos of the aftermath somewhere, partly obscured by the bank and the scaffold poles that used to line the circuit!

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I don't think it was wet, looking at the FL.

Andrew, I'm quite sure both events were run in the dry too.

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I believe I went to every F5000 meeting ever held at Snett with my father or with Nick Wattiez' team when I was 'gofering'.

I remember Nick too, and have read and heard quite a bit more about him in recent years!

The March programme has a UOP Shadow picture on the cover.
The support races that weekend were:
Saturday:
Two heats and a final for the Dunlop/Autosport Star of Tomorrow FF1600 series. Entries include James Weaver, Sean Walker, Alex Hawkbridge, Bob Toleman, David Sears and Mike 'Fulmar' Taylor.
Sunday:
Sytner of Nottingham Club Sports Race 10 laps
Renault 5 Elf Challenge Race 10 laps
Euro Burgess Southern League Production Sports Car Race 10 laps
Allied Polymer FF2000 Race 20 laps
Leyland Cars National Mini 1275 Race 10 laps

allenbrown · 3 Mar 2006, 21:03 (Ref:1535693)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim 27

I have just dug out my programmes from the 76 season that include both the March 27th-28th and August 1st F5000 events at Snetterton.
Unfortunately I don't have access to a digital camera or scanner at present, so will list the entry list for the March meeting & ask questions afterwards.

Tim

Would you be willing to lend those two programs to me so I can scan the relevent parts and post them back to you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim 27

Code:


NO:    DRIVER                             CAR                                         CC
3       DAMIEN MAGEE                   MARCH FORD 751                      3412
4       BRIAN ROBINSON                 LOLA FORD                              1996
6       BILL GUBELMANN                 MARCH FORD 732                      1996
7       DAVID PURLEY                    CHEVRON FORD B30                   3412
11     LUIGI CEVASCO                   BRABHAM BT42                         2994
13     DAVINA GALICA                   SURTEES FORD TS16                 2996
15     VALENTINO MUSETTI            MARCH FORD 752                     1996
17     LIVIO PONZONE                   DYWA 75 CHEVROLET                4920
21     BRIAN McGUIRE                   WILLIAMS FORD FW04               2998
30     TBA                                  BOXER FORD PR276                    1996
31     RIKKY PEIRCE                     SURTEES FORD TS16B                 2998
99     JOHN CANNON                    MARCH                                     4992

Interesting list. Musetti's entered his F2 March as a 752 (it could be anything!). Also Gubelmann's car is entered as a 732, not a 752. Only 11 on the entry list but 13 took part, excluding the Cevasco, Ponzone and Peirce entries of course.

Allen

Dan Rear · 6 Mar 2006, 10:39 (Ref:1537177)

Allen, I thought 'Billy Bubblegums' car was a 732, sometimes called a 742, NOT a 752. Thats a v small entry for the March Snett race, there were a good few more cars out for th efirst race the week before at Mallory, I wonder why less people were intending to travel to Snett??

allenbrown · 6 Mar 2006, 10:51 (Ref:1537185)

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Originally Posted by Dan Rear

I wonder why less people were intending to travel to Snett??

Err, maybe because they'd been there before in March and the frostbite scars were still bothering them?

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