MSNZ & TMC - 'Wheels start to come off' - Page 94

bluespur · 15 Apr 2016, 01:01 (Ref:3632801)

Trevor

Your last post could do with some explanation. Not sure how our motorsport officials, who are unpaid volunteers, are "mproperly usng and riskng funds". That is a pretty big and very general call.

Some examples are necessary

Trevor NZ · 15 Apr 2016, 02:36 (Ref:3632811)

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Originally Posted by bluespur

Trevor

Your last post could do with some explanation. Not sure how our motorsport officials, who are unpaid volunteers, are "improperly usng and riskng funds". That is a pretty big and very general call.

Some examples are necessary

Those that enjoy and wield the required authority within MSNZS are not, "unpaid volunteers". What is more officialy accredited volunteers often demonstrate egotism.

Southern Man · 15 Apr 2016, 03:02 (Ref:3632815)

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Originally Posted by Trevor NZ

What is more officialy accredited volunteers often demonstrate egotism.

As does a kid with the cap on back to front dancing in the street, everyone of us who drive a car or even those who become keyboard warriors.

Everyone has an ego and those who say they don't are demonstrating that they do.

Goat Boy · 15 Apr 2016, 03:15 (Ref:3632816)

I wonder if we're in danger of missing the point here, i.e. it is the actions of certain elements of the Executive as well as one or two paid employees in a senior position that have created the level of resentment that we are seeing amongst some members and posters here. I can think of four specifically and I believe you all know who they are.

Goat Boy · 15 Apr 2016, 03:17 (Ref:3632817)

And they mostly don't post on here.

Goat Boy · 15 Apr 2016, 03:23 (Ref:3632820)

But I bet they read it!

Southern Man · 15 Apr 2016, 03:38 (Ref:3632821)

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Originally Posted by Goat Boy

I wonder if we're in danger of missing the point here, i.e. it is the actions of certain elements of the Executive as well as one or two paid employees in a senior position that have created the level of resentment that we are seeing amongst some members and posters here. I can think of four specifically and I believe you all know who they are.

In my opinion there is one who has escaped public identification and criticism and he was the key to the whole TMC debacle of years ago.
Too often we take aim at the man shooting the bullets rather than at the man or the men who supplied him with the gun then told him to go out there and shoot the thing
However the world does move in mysterious ways and when one looks around today at those who one thinks of as the prime causes of the issues they have certainly had a big fall from grace and not just from motorsport.

Goat Boy · 15 Apr 2016, 03:43 (Ref:3632822)

A wise post indeed...

Mark Petch · 15 Apr 2016, 07:57 (Ref:3632844)

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Originally Posted by Southern Man

In my opinion there is one who has escaped public identification and criticism and he was the key to the whole TMC debacle of years ago.

Too often we take aim at the man shooting the bullets rather than at the man or the men who supplied him with the gun then told him to go out there and shoot the thing

However the world does move in mysterious ways and when one looks around today at those who one thinks of as the prime causes of the issues they have certainly had a big fall from grace and not just from motorsport.

Hi Carl, Martin Fine may have escaped public identification as you put it but he has certainly not escaped Chris Abbott and my attention, as he is named as the second defendant in our legal action against MSNZ.

I totally agree with your comment ie. "Too often we take aim at the man shooting the bullets rather than at the man or the men who supplied him with the gun then told him to go out there and shoot the thing"

Southern Man · 15 Apr 2016, 08:49 (Ref:3632854)

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Originally Posted by Mark Petch

Hi Carl, Martin Fine may have escaped public identification as you put it but he has certainly not escaped Chris Abbott and my attention, as he is named as the second defendant in our legal action against MSNZ.

I totally agree with your comment ie. "Too often we take aim at the man shooting the bullets rather than at the man or the men who supplied him with the gun then told him to go out there and shoot the thing"

Who gave him his gun Mark? Cheers

Trevor NZ · 15 Apr 2016, 22:27 (Ref:3633120)

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Originally Posted by Southern Man

Who gave him his gun Mark? Cheers

Let us trust that for you the wind remains favourable. In it, not at it. LOL

FAQ:- A political situation is involved whereby those who currently hold power, as a collective, will never risk losing their individual authority as a result of an amendment to the current undemocratic aspects of the constitution.

on_to_it · 17 Apr 2016, 08:42 (Ref:3633663)

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Originally Posted by Trevor NZ

Let us trust that for you the wind remains favourable. In it, not at it. LOL

FAQ:- A political situation is involved whereby those who currently hold power, as a collective, will never risk losing their individual authority as a result of an amendment to the current undemocratic aspects of the constitution.

So Trev, is it fair to assume you're saying "same old, same old"?

Goat Boy · 17 Apr 2016, 08:54 (Ref:3633669)

Same circus, same clowns

Southern Man · 17 Apr 2016, 19:49 (Ref:3634179)

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Originally Posted by Goat Boy

Same circus, same clowns

A bit like here eh?

Goat Boy · 17 Apr 2016, 20:51 (Ref:3634200)

Absolutely

Trevor NZ · 18 Apr 2016, 01:36 (Ref:3634268)

SM & GB,

Even standing together as a double barrel, you show that you are incapable of hitting the wall. LOL

Goat Boy · 18 Apr 2016, 02:46 (Ref:3634274)

I have a unicycle and horn but nevertheless was rejected from the executive of MSNZ because I didn't have a red fluffy wig, huge pants and enormous shoes. Also I don't drink enough to have a red nose...

Southern Man · 18 Apr 2016, 06:35 (Ref:3634310)

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Originally Posted by Trevor NZ

SM & GB,

Even standing together as a double barrel, you show that you are incapable of hitting the wall. LOL

Maybe but I am pretty deadly with a bent wax match and a rubber band as your ears can testify. I was pretty good with the old fountain pen flick too. Best check the back of your shirt for ink trails

Icarus_nz · 13 May 2016, 06:19 (Ref:3641272)

http://www.speedcafe.com/2016/05/13/...er-categories/

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Icarus_nz · 13 May 2016, 06:20 (Ref:3641273)

Alternately, John 11:35

pukekoheracer · 13 May 2016, 07:56 (Ref:3641285)

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Originally Posted by Icarus_nz

http://www.speedcafe.com/2016/05/13/...er-categories/

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Some things never change. And to announce it on Friday the 13th....

Icarus_nz · 13 May 2016, 08:51 (Ref:3641294)

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Originally Posted by pukekoheracer

Some things never change. And to announce it on Friday the 13th....

Noice.
It can only end well.
I know of another day that would be perfect to announce this but that rolled past over a month ago

socram · 13 May 2016, 09:13 (Ref:3641299)

Considering the hard work HRC did lifting the whole show last season, this announcement is not going to go down well in some quarters...

promax · 13 May 2016, 22:25 (Ref:3641471)

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Originally Posted by socram

Considering the hard work HRC did lifting the whole show last season, this announcement is not going to go down well in some quarters...

Someone promoted the series last season? The promotion (or lack of it) looked no different to any other season?

Goat Boy · 13 May 2016, 23:41 (Ref:3641483)

OMG. Nepotism strikes again

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