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Old 27 Sep 2013, 08:29 (Ref:3309935)   #326
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So that's just £154k to find then, plus labour to fit it all and an engine. I hope he does it, I really do.
I'd love to see Lea Wood do it too, but I believe these kinds of costs are beyond the resources he can muster right now... Lea really operates on a shoestring.
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Old 27 Sep 2013, 23:46 (Ref:3310273)   #327
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The 2014 BTCC F1 clashes with other Major categories

Round 1 Brands Hatch 30th March -
F1 Malaysia ... Different time zones so doesn't affect TV

Round 2 Donington Park 20th April -
F1 China ... Different time zones so doesn't affect TV
FIA WEC 6 Hours Silverstone ... Direct Head to Head TV

Round 5 Oulton Park 8th June -
F1 Canada ... Different time zones - Possible TV overlap with Race 3

Round 7 Knockhill 20th August -
F1 Belgium ... European race time - Direct head to head TV

Round 8 Rockingham 7 September -
F1 Italy ... European race Time - Direct Head to head TV

Round 10 Brands Hatch 12 October
F1 Japan ... Different time Zones so doesn't affect TV

Will race dates change to try and separate from the F1 calendar - especially the Head to heads in August and September?

This is just looking at TV, of course there are fans of both who could be trackside around the country missing out on Live coverage of F1 on the TV. Some consideration for them would be nice too.
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Old 28 Sep 2013, 06:35 (Ref:3310328)   #328
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The Easter weekend may also be the British GT at Oulton.
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Old 28 Sep 2013, 07:19 (Ref:3310335)   #329
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The Easter weekend may also be the British GT at Oulton.
That's likely going to be a spectator problem, but I'm not sure that British GT will have live TV for the Easter Weekend...
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Old 28 Sep 2013, 08:03 (Ref:3310347)   #330
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That's likely going to be a spectator problem, but I'm not sure that British GT will have live TV for the Easter Weekend...
Even if it does, it is likely that the GT races would take place on the Monday due to the Oulton's operating restrictions.
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Old 28 Sep 2013, 13:39 (Ref:3310408)   #331
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The 2014 BTCC F1 clashes with other Major categories
I'm more concerned about potential clashes with the WTCC and DTM calendars, which aren't published yet. It's inevitable that there are going to be several more clashes to add to that list - there simply aren't enough weekends in the year to avoid it.

Are F1 fans and BTCC fans really that similar? I, for one, do not follow single-seater racing.
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Old 28 Sep 2013, 14:43 (Ref:3310419)   #332
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Ooh, ooh, just remembered from Britcar @ Thruxton this year, Alyn James ("I started motorsport because rugby only needs one ball") drove a black, underdeveloped Honda Civic shell, which looked vaguely NGTC (it probably wasn't) and plenty of Team Dynamics engineers were hanging around his garage. I doubt that James will be replacing the works Hondas, but the car was run by Synchro. They were running Dave Allan until the tragic accident at Millbrook.

These guys, despite being volunteers, have BTCC experience:

http://www.btcc.net/html/team_detail.php?id=7

This may happen.

And just heard via David Addison has said that Welch Motorsport are planning to run 2 NGTC cars next season.
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Old 28 Sep 2013, 16:34 (Ref:3310439)   #333
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In fairness, Welch have been saying that thing about running 2 cars ever since they appeared in the championship.
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Ooh, ooh, just remembered from Britcar @ Thruxton this year, Alyn James ("I started motorsport because rugby only needs one ball") drove a black, underdeveloped Honda Civic shell, which looked vaguely NGTC (it probably wasn't) and plenty of Team Dynamics engineers were hanging around his garage. I doubt that James will be replacing the works Hondas, but the car was run by Synchro..


NGTC kit and wing, side exit exhaust, but no turbo vents on the bonnet and 5 stud wheels.

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I'm more concerned about potential clashes with the WTCC and DTM calendars, which aren't published yet. It's inevitable that there are going to be several more clashes to add to that list - there simply aren't enough weekends in the year to avoid it.

Are F1 fans and BTCC fans really that similar? I, for one, do not follow single-seater racing.
Do WTCC and DTM have a substantial amount of fans in the UK compared to BTCC?
Isn't that a walkover for BTCC?

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Ooh, ooh, just remembered from Britcar @ Thruxton this year, Alyn James ("I started motorsport because rugby only needs one ball") drove a black, underdeveloped Honda Civic shell, which looked vaguely NGTC (it probably wasn't) and plenty of Team Dynamics engineers were hanging around his garage. I doubt that James will be replacing the works Hondas, but the car was run by Synchro. They were running Dave Allan until the tragic accident at Millbrook.

These guys, despite being volunteers, have BTCC experience:

http://www.btcc.net/html/team_detail.php?id=7

This may happen.

And just heard via David Addison has said that Welch Motorsport are planning to run 2 NGTC cars next season.
I think Dynamics only supplied parts no engineering support. This car is Group N with NGTC body work
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I'm more concerned about potential clashes with the WTCC and DTM calendars.
WTCC and especially the DTM are completely irrelevant to 99% of the people that follow the BTCC.
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I think Dynamics only supplied parts no engineering support. This car is Group N with NGTC body work
They went into the garage and talked and jacked up the car, if that's any help.
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In fairness, Welch have been saying that thing about running 2 cars ever since they appeared in the championship.
They do already - Dan Welch and David Nye. Just Nye will be moving up to NGTC next season, if Welch's dreams come true (which, I have to admit, doesn't seem to happen to Dan).
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They do already - Dan Welch and David Nye. Just Nye will be moving up to NGTC next season, if Welch's dreams come true (which, I have to admit, doesn't seem to happen to Dan).
That's a fair point, I forgot the Nye Focus was ran by Welch.
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In terms of supports and looking ahead a year (2015), I don't know if I have read this right but it may be that no matter what series becomes FIA F4, it will be a BTCC support...
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That's a fair point, I forgot the Nye Focus was ran by Welch.
Welch have started work on a 2nd Proton for 2014
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I noticed that Andy Neate has put an advert up for his Cruze this morning.

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I understand, from a very reputable source, that Andy Neate is experiencing some financial and contractual issues, that could put his future participation in the series in serious doubt.
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I understand, from a very reputable source, that Andy Neate is experiencing some financial and contractual issues, that could put his future participation in the series in serious doubt.
I don't understand why he would put this in the advert then;

"Due the expansion of IP Tech Race Engineering BTCC programme in 2014 and the commencement of the build of two further NGTC Chevrolet Cruzes, we are offering our soon to be 5 race old Chevrolet Cruze for sale."
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Trying to raise funds?
To clear current and pressing debts?
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200,000.00 price I am sure the Adam Morgan Avensis should be much cheaper and if that is sold with setup data alsoa much better choice

BTW I suppose no word if he will race at Brands , find another pay driver or not show up at all...
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The advert says that the car is only available after the last round, so I guess that means he will be out there driving it.
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200,000.00 price I am sure the Adam Morgan Avensis should be much cheaper and if that is sold with setup data alsoa much better choice

BTW I suppose no word if he will race at Brands , find another pay driver or not show up at all...
As expensive as £200k might sound, that's the going rate. Not as cheap as Toca envisaged! And there's nothing wrong with that Chevy. Just because he's the driver, doesn't mean it's not got the potential to be a top car. It looks stunning in the metal, real attention to detail, no expense spared stuff. What you'd expect from RML of course.
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