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Old 12 Oct 2013, 03:26 (Ref:3316548)   #226
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Are the AMG & Nissan engines using production heads? That is probably the difference if so.
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Old 12 Oct 2013, 21:06 (Ref:3316813)   #227
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It seems the NisMo operation are now looking at issues beyond their engine performance to try and establish the cause for their variable form Here
The penny finally drops?
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Old 12 Oct 2013, 22:22 (Ref:3316845)   #228
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Efforts so far suggest that Nissan should have been allowed to use E70 for this race.........but as usual the holden whingers prevailed in having it stopped.
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Old 12 Oct 2013, 22:44 (Ref:3316850)   #229
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Efforts so far suggest that Nissan should have been allowed to use E70 for this race.........but as usual the holden whingers prevailed in having it stopped.
And you'd know about whingers.
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Old 13 Oct 2013, 02:05 (Ref:3316914)   #230
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And you'd know about whingers.
I noticed how quiet you were on the E70 issue.
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Old 13 Oct 2013, 02:13 (Ref:3316916)   #231
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I noticed how quiet you were on the E70 issue.
Unlike some others, when i don't have a lot of knowledge about a subject, i don't guess or pretend i do.
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Old 13 Oct 2013, 03:26 (Ref:3316933)   #232
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Nissan Motorsport (Global) held a media briefing this morning. They've turned their focus to aerodynamics - they feel they're disadvantaged with the aero. According to Nissan, V8SC are reviewing their processes for aero homologation.
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Old 13 Oct 2013, 03:34 (Ref:3316936)   #233
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Are the AMG & Nissan engines using production heads? That is probably the difference if so.
Earlier on the telecast Skaife said the Nissans are now running new heads
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Old 13 Oct 2013, 03:54 (Ref:3316944)   #234
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Yeah, still based on the production head.

Apparently they're looking to have a batch of heads cast at Nissan's North American foundry, specifically for their own purposes.
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Old 13 Oct 2013, 06:06 (Ref:3316980)   #235
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Unlike some others, when i don't have a lot of knowledge about a subject, i don't guess or pretend i do.
That's crap!.......ypu just didn't want them to be competitive.
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Old 13 Oct 2013, 08:28 (Ref:3317021)   #236
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Nissan Motorsport (Global) held a media briefing this morning. They've turned their focus to aerodynamics - they feel they're disadvantaged with the aero. According to Nissan, V8SC are reviewing their processes for aero homologation.

Well they have a chance to address it when they test the new Volvo later this year you would think..
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Old 13 Oct 2013, 08:50 (Ref:3317036)   #237
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Well they have a chance to address it when they test the new Volvo later this year you would think..
Hopefully Nissan, Erebus and Volvo will be competitive in 2014.
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Old 13 Oct 2013, 08:58 (Ref:3317042)   #238
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That's crap!.......ypu just didn't want them to be competitive.
Oh dear.
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Old 13 Oct 2013, 12:27 (Ref:3317131)   #239
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What influence does anyone on a forum have to what happened?
He could have written a 5000 word thesis on the subject and it would not have changed a bloody thing.
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Old 14 Oct 2013, 13:34 (Ref:3317754)   #240
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Did VESA use the chance they had whilst the cars where in America to put one of each make in a full size motorsport windtunnel ? Would have led to much better readings on current aero performance than testing on a runway.
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Old 14 Oct 2013, 20:26 (Ref:3317897)   #241
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Did VESA use the chance they had whilst the cars where in America to put one of each make in a full size motorsport windtunnel ? Would have led to much better readings on current aero performance than testing on a runway.
Good point. I suspect they didn't as it may have disadvantaged Holden.

It was a lost opportunity to verify their incredibly antiquated runway testing.....or otherwise.
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Old 16 Oct 2013, 01:34 (Ref:3318261)   #242
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And all you armchair experts have expertise in aerodynamics from what university?
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Old 16 Oct 2013, 03:19 (Ref:3318275)   #243
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And all you armchair experts have expertise in aerodynamics from what university?
Those two reknowned institutions, Google and Wikipedia
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Old 16 Oct 2013, 05:12 (Ref:3318281)   #244
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Neither of those, and it wasn't a Corn Flakes packet either.
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Old 20 Oct 2013, 21:43 (Ref:3320709)   #245
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Chuckling quietly in my armchair.

http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/10/21/...ercars-future/

"Initially blamed on engine performance, the issue is now being pinned on a high-drag aerodynamic package."

"As well as amping up its own efforts, including better utilising the expertise of its Japanese performance arm, Nimso, Nissan is calling on V8 Supercars to increase the accuracy of its current open-air aero testing procedures."
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Old 20 Oct 2013, 23:24 (Ref:3320738)   #246
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Well didn't they already design their aero in CFD before the coast down tests last time... Doesn't sound like the greatest plug for their sponsor autodesk

Sounds like their trying to save face and blame the coast down tests for their screw up in designing their aero to start with to me. Erebrus (without the might of the factory behind them) got the job done..
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Old 20 Oct 2013, 23:48 (Ref:3320744)   #247
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Yeah, I recall the bragging about how they designed the aero in-house on the computer.

They also said around launch time, they had several different front splitters and rear wings to try out come testing time. I wonder if that was actually the case...
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Wish they'd get a room and sort it, instead of doing it thru the press
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Yeah, I recall the bragging about how they designed the aero in-house on the computer.

They also said around launch time, they had several different front splitters and rear wings to try out come testing time. I wonder if that was actually the case...
They have 4 cars in the stable, with one on each car, and a spare for each, that makes 'several'
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