Ligier's Return

isynge · 27 Oct 2005, 15:07 (Ref:1445180)

Notice over on DSC that Ligier have developed a VdV car that'll debut this weekend in the hands of Jonathan Cochet. Interestingly it's designated as a JS-49 - aren't Ligier sportscars supposed to be evenly numbered?

**FIRE** · 27 Oct 2005, 15:29 (Ref:1445201)

For people who have no DSC subscription: http://www.automobiles-ligier.com/site/index.htm

**Dani Filth** · 27 Oct 2005, 15:56 (Ref:1445215)

nice to see another famous name back in racing .

Pete Fenelon · 27 Oct 2005, 16:03 (Ref:1445221)

Wonderful. I loved the JS2 and particularly the gorgeous JS3. Good to see them heading back into sports cars.

billnchristy · 27 Oct 2005, 16:08 (Ref:1445224)

I wonder if they will step up to the big leagues soon?

TheNewBob · 27 Oct 2005, 16:08 (Ref:1445226)

Not only good to see but that car looks pretty stunning there too!

Nordic · 27 Oct 2005, 16:10 (Ref:1445227)

A Ligier-Renault to take on the peugeots would be nice!

Tim Northcutt · 27 Oct 2005, 16:11 (Ref:1445228)

Interesting that they are returning via the FIA-CN rules sportsracer market...

But it makes sense to learn things (and to sell cars while you're at it!) in what has become a very popular series (V de V) that could serve as a springboard for building an LMP3 or LMP2 chassis derived from the data gathered from this program...

I would assume that Ligier would also consider eventually racing that car in the Britsports Open Sportsracer Series as well, since it would be compliant to compete there...

nsxr · 27 Oct 2005, 17:34 (Ref:1445306)

werent they building an F3 car or something along those lines.????? Plus does that front end look like the Porsche or what??? very cool car thought. good to see the return of a classic name in racing to the track. now come on lotus!!!!!

**Dani Filth** · 27 Oct 2005, 17:46 (Ref:1445323)

can somebody put a link to this VdV series ?

**FIRE** · 27 Oct 2005, 17:47 (Ref:1445324)

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsxr

werent they building an F3 car or something along those lines.????? Plus does that front end look like the Porsche or what??? very cool car thought. good to see the return of a classic name in racing to the track. now come on lotus!!!!!

From www.grandprix.com:

Quote:

...Tico Martini continued to build Formule Renault chassis with much success until 2004 when he sold the company to Guy Ligier and anew assault began on Formula 3.

Since then didn't hear much about this project.

**FIRE** · 27 Oct 2005, 17:50 (Ref:1445327)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dani Filth

can somebody put a link to this VdV series ?

http://www.vdev.fr/english_welcomepage.htm

billnchristy · 27 Oct 2005, 23:50 (Ref:1445585)

That series looks very cool, they should make something like this in the states, there are already a lot of C and D sports racers and Grand Am Cup/SWC cars could make up the GT fields...it could be quite huge...and I love the all endurance formula...

paul-collins · 28 Oct 2005, 01:08 (Ref:1445611)

Quote:

Originally Posted by billnchristy

That series looks very cool, they should make something like this in the states, there are already a lot of C and D sports racers and Grand Am Cup/SWC cars could make up the GT fields...

Good idea Bill.

Tim Northcutt · 28 Oct 2005, 02:22 (Ref:1445629)

Quote:

Originally Posted by billnchristy

That series looks very cool, they should make something like this in the states, there are already a lot of C and D sports racers and Grand Am Cup/SWC cars could make up the GT fields...it could be quite huge...and I love the all endurance formula...

Wish I would've thought of that.....

Don't even ask, Bill...If I told ya, I'd have to kill ya.....

isynge · 28 Oct 2005, 08:58 (Ref:1445813)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNewBob

Not only good to see but that car looks pretty stunning there too!

The overall polish of the car really stood out for me. It looks like and LMP2 just begging to be let off the leash.

It's also nice to see Ligier back as a name - and in a sort of racing where there's still a degree of character. Seeing something that brings back the memories of '79 through '81 can't be bad at all.

TheNewBob · 28 Oct 2005, 10:31 (Ref:1445901)

Only thing is, imagine the car with an LMP2 style rear wing etc. - would it still look as good...?

isynge · 28 Oct 2005, 11:57 (Ref:1445990)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNewBob

Only thing is, imagine the car with an LMP2 style rear wing etc. - would it still look as good...?

To be honest I don't think it would hurt the car that much. If you look at the rear view on DSC (or on Ligier's site) and then compare it with some of the shots of the RS Spyder from a similar angle at Laguna Seca the rear wing doesn't look terrifically different.

isynge · 31 Oct 2005, 15:23 (Ref:1448457)

Well, following the flurry (perhaps too strong a word) of interest in the new Ligier, it seems to have been something of a non-event with no sign of either Cochet or Ligier at Magny Cours this weekend.

Any VdeV afficianados know what might have gone on here? Or do we have to chalk up the JS49 as yet another mythical car?

claude · 31 Oct 2005, 18:07 (Ref:1448579)

The JS49 was entered only in the Modern Endurance Sprint Races. Jonathan Cochet was second quickest in qualifying for the two races, ans finished in second place behind a Norma M20 Evo entered by Norbert Santos and driven by Di Benedetto/Vilarino, so for a first race, short of development, it is not so bad.

GT-Eins · 1 Nov 2005, 06:19 (Ref:1449049)

Is anything known about a sales-price of the JS49?

isynge · 1 Nov 2005, 10:07 (Ref:1449200)

Quote:

Originally Posted by claude

The JS49 was entered only in the Modern Endurance Sprint Races. Jonathan Cochet was second quickest in qualifying for the two races, ans finished in second place behind a Norma M20 Evo entered by Norbert Santos and driven by Di Benedetto/Vilarino, so for a first race, short of development, it is not so bad.

All makes sense now, and indeed, not a bad showing at all. Just mildly annoying that the VdeV site doesn't carry results of it!

**Dani Filth** · 1 Nov 2005, 10:36 (Ref:1449243)

and i re-ask

. can somebody provide a link to the VdeV website ?? .. i coudn't find it .

iucrmh · 1 Nov 2005, 11:44 (Ref:1449291)

Yep, FIRE posted on page 1 of this thread. Lots of great circuits and
proper distance races.....

http://www.vdev.fr/english_welcomepage.htm

isynge · 1 Nov 2005, 11:44 (Ref:1449292)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dani Filth

and i re-ask

. can somebody provide a link to the VdeV website ?? .. i coudn't find it .

Here you go...

http://www.vdev.fr/english_welcomepage.htm

...and looking at it now I see I may have grotesquely maligned them in accusing them of not publishing the modern sprint results...

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