Is Alfa Romeo likely to return to WTCC? - Page 3

MikeD · 21 Mar 2008, 10:01 (Ref:2157966)

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Originally Posted by JMeissner

Anyhow guys, we have strayed off topic for a good bit now - this thread is about Alfa Romeo and if they are going to return to WTCC or not, lets get back to it

Yes, let's get back to the topic.

Imagine the Q4 in WTCC ... it almost makes you drool doesn't it?

Bramzel · 21 Mar 2008, 12:40 (Ref:2158099)

You got to explain what a GT prototype has to do with a WTCC racecar

awrb · 21 Mar 2008, 13:21 (Ref:2158143)

If only if only...

Would be nice to see a Brera (not GT Bramzel, though it is a prototype) in the WTCC, but I really can't see it happening.

Maybe Alfa will return with the 147 replacement, but i don't think they'd use a car like this, it's not mainstream enough. They'll use one of their more popular one's, not a specialist coupe.

Bramzel · 21 Mar 2008, 23:29 (Ref:2158624)

I know its a Brera, but the model is a GT, not a touringcar. If Alfa were to enter it would have to be with the 159. Somebody from N-Technology told me that they have actually built a prototype, or at least started on it. I'd love to see that bugger....

fish88 · 22 Mar 2008, 17:35 (Ref:2159076)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

I know its a Brera, but the model is a GT, not a touringcar. If Alfa were to enter it would have to be with the 159. Somebody from N-Technology told me that they have actually built a prototype, or at least started on it. I'd love to see that bugger....

Where they planning to enter that in 2009 or has this been cancelled because of lack of factory support?

awrb · 22 Mar 2008, 18:13 (Ref:2159088)

Sorry Bramzel, thought you got mixed up. Blame Alfa for naming their car after its class.

**FIRE** · 22 Mar 2008, 19:46 (Ref:2159133)

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Originally Posted by MikeD

Yes, let's get back to the topic.

Imagine the Q4 in WTCC ... it almost makes you drool doesn't it?

Q4 is the AWD system of Alfa Romeo (like Audi has the Quatro system). If I remember well Alfa wanted to change a AWD 159 Q4 to RWD.

Bramzel · 23 Mar 2008, 02:29 (Ref:2159320)

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Originally Posted by fish88

Where they planning to enter that in 2009 or has this been cancelled because of lack of factory support?

Apparently the project was canned by Alfa and N-Tech because they couldn't get the car light enough to be competative.

Hazard · 23 Mar 2008, 13:25 (Ref:2159611)

Yep, the Brera's a no since it can't be homologated with 4+ doors (since it only has 3).

The 147 & 159 are the only viable Alfa's, and the 147's too old really.

The 159 would make a perfect DTM frame.

**FIRE** · 23 Mar 2008, 14:00 (Ref:2159625)

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Originally Posted by Hazard

The 159 would make a perfect DTM frame.

With current rules even the LADA and Brilliance...

OJB · 23 Mar 2008, 15:21 (Ref:2159670)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

Apparently the project was canned by Alfa and N-Tech because they couldn't get the car light enough to be competative.

That wouldn't surprise me, although Alfa Romeo are planning a new range of cars that will be lighter, and that includes the 159.

Valker · 23 Mar 2008, 18:12 (Ref:2159746)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

I know its a Brera, but the model is a GT, not a touringcar.

Umph... and how is a FWD (ok, I know that's a 4wd mod) 3-door hatchback more like a GT car than a tourer?

Hazard · 23 Mar 2008, 20:09 (Ref:2159804)

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Originally Posted by Valker

Umph... and how is a FWD (ok, I know that's a 4wd mod) 3-door hatchback more like a GT car than a tourer?

Cos it doesn't look like you're supposed to put your shopping in it

Dead-Eye · 23 Mar 2008, 20:30 (Ref:2159819)

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Originally Posted by OJB

That wouldn't surprise me, although Alfa Romeo are planning a new range of cars that will be lighter, and that includes the 159.

First one of those would probably be the 149, which might be viable as an S2000 car too.

awrb · 23 Mar 2008, 22:58 (Ref:2159963)

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Originally Posted by Valker

Umph... and how is a FWD (ok, I know that's a 4wd mod) 3-door hatchback more like a GT car than a tourer?

fair point Valker. Is there any reason Alaf couldn't use the Brera or GT as a touring car. After all, its only like a 3-door 149

Dead-Eye · 23 Mar 2008, 23:20 (Ref:2159966)

The Brera is rather a 3-door 159, if that's too heavy the Brera will be too. And the GT is pretty much identical to the 147 IIRC.
I believe the 149 is set to debut in early 2009...they wouldn't enter anything before then anyway, so they might as well use the 149.

PorscheFanNo1 · 24 Mar 2008, 13:08 (Ref:2160271)

Doesnt the Brera only come with a 3 litre V6 or something?

Sodemo · 24 Mar 2008, 13:33 (Ref:2160291)

As long as it didn't look like that huge bee that entered the BTCC a few years back then I would like to see another Alfa, though a saloon please no hatchbacks, there are ladies present.

OJB · 24 Mar 2008, 22:24 (Ref:2160676)

Maybe it will depend on how Fiat restructure their products. From what I can tell, Abarth is going to be the sole sporting division of the company, but I don't think Fiat will ever produce a car bigger than the Bravo ever again (the current Croma doesn't count...), so that might be worth looking out for - spin-off models are said to be planned but I think those will be more SUV and estate based. A saloon might be in the offing though.

Alfa Romeo has always been their sporting brand, but I think they are moving away from that more at the moment - they are going through a massive image change.

**FIRE** · 25 Mar 2008, 17:07 (Ref:2161323)

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Originally Posted by OJB

Maybe it will depend on how Fiat restructure their products. From what I can tell, Abarth is going to be the sole sporting division of the company, but I don't think Fiat will ever produce a car bigger than the Bravo ever again (the current Croma doesn't count...), so that might be worth looking out for - spin-off models are said to be planned but I think those will be more SUV and estate based. A saloon might be in the offing though.

Alfa Romeo has always been their sporting brand, but I think they are moving away from that more at the moment - they are going through a massive image change.

Why?

duke_toaster · 25 Mar 2008, 18:15 (Ref:2161361)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Why?

It's a people carrier!

Although that couldn't be a hinderance if we were to start .... EUROPEAN MPV THUNDER TOUR!!!

I mean, NASCAR race pickup trucks and overpopulationmobiles are starting to sell a lot.

**FIRE** · 25 Mar 2008, 18:53 (Ref:2161386)

You are right. I thought it was a saloon car.

OJB · 26 Mar 2008, 00:20 (Ref:2161687)

God knows what the Croma is! Sort of an estate crossed with an MPV. Really flopped in the UK - taken off sale within 18 months making it one of the shortest periods for a mainstream car on sale here ever!

I vote the Bravo - largely because it looks brill and I'd love to see Abarth touring car racing. Having said that, isn't the plan to take the Abart Punto into rallying?

Bramzel · 26 Mar 2008, 09:20 (Ref:2161852)

It's not the plan, its reality already

The Punto Abarth S2000 rallycar is pretty succesfull already.

stedevil · 26 Mar 2008, 17:03 (Ref:2162200)

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Originally Posted by OJB

Maybe it will depend on how Fiat restructure their products. From what I can tell, Abarth is going to be the sole sporting division of the company,

???
They will sell Ferrari then?!?

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