2014 GP2 silly season

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Originally Posted by cds_uk

and the Singapore feature race must have been very hard for him to take.

And what was the reason for that again? Oh yes. Tyres.

[cds_uk]

Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

And what was the reason for that again? Oh yes. Tyres.

Your point being? They are all in the same boat, anyone of them can shoot off and cook their tyres, it is hardly Palmers fault that he looked after his better is it.

[naca]

Nasr will either win the title next year or struggle to get a win at all. If he doesn't win I suspect he will either troll around for another year, spend his way into an F1 seat or got to sportscars

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Originally Posted by cds_uk

Your point being? They are all in the same boat, anyone of them can shoot off and cook their tyres, it is hardly Palmers fault that he looked after his better is it.

Nasr didn't have his front tyres replaced, whilst Palmer had all 4.

And the fact that tyres, not outright pace, dictate the results in what is supposed to be a feeder series is a joke, as we never get to see the real picture...

[danoli]

Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

Nasr didn't have his front tyres replaced, whilst Palmer had all 4.

And the fact that tyres, not outright pace, dictate the results in what is supposed to be a feeder series is a joke, as we never get to see the real picture...

Wrong. Palmer had just rears changed as well, but looked after his tyres far better than Nasr did. I think a quick look at the results on Friday with Palmer fastest in practice and qualifying shows you who had better outright pace anyway.

Maybe with Nasr not running into him at Spa or his wheel not coming off at Monza Palmer could have beaten Nasr in the championship anyway.

[BtccLee]

Another question is how the cars will look next year, we may be keeping the same chassis but aero and bodywork mods are supposed to bring the cars into line with 2014 F1.

And of course the calendar...

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

The calendar. I thought that was already revealed...

[el_cat]

Originally Posted by BtccLee

And of course the calendar...

This calendar?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_GP...eason#Calendar

[p-matt]

That's not confirmed, or probably complete. I'd guess they will top and tail it in Bahrain and Abu Dhabi. Malaysia probably won't feature next year. Not sure about Singapore.

[Japanese Samurai]

Japanese Autosport magazine rumours that a young Japanese Super GT driver of Honda might participate in overseas formula series (GP2?).

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Japanese Autosport magazine rumours that a young Japanese Super GT driver of Honda might participate in overseas formula series (GP2?).

If they mean Naoki Yamamoto...

[TR Motorsport]

Originally Posted by BtccLee

Another question is how the cars will look next year, we may be keeping the same chassis but aero and bodywork mods are supposed to bring the cars into line with 2014 F1.

And of course the calendar...

GP2 Orgainisers keeping car exactly the same for 2014, as the bodywork changes in f1 are really tiny and won't effect GP2 apart from maybe the shark fin engine cover going and being replaced by a standard one, and the people in charge of GP2 want to make it competitive with FR3.5 financially, so like £800,000 to £1.3 Million a season instead of £1.4 to £2 Million a season like it has been last couple of years (since like 2011), so keeping car exactly the same to bring season costs down so more talented drivers can come into the series and teams can afford to take talent instead of $$$, and to avoid situations like the one Russian Time was born out of this year with iSport withdrawing due not having enough $$$ as the price it charged drivers was too high, but that turned out well with Russian Time being teams champions and all

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

One of the things that did help Russian Time with their teams title was that they ran 2 very capable drivers...

...the only other team I can name that did the same was Carlin, but whilst Bird and Nasr were pretty much even (Nasr more consistent, Bird with higher peaks), Palmer came into the frame in the 2nd half, which was more than what Dillmann achieved.

[skells22]

dates
April 4-6 Bahrain
May 9-11 Barcelona
May 22-24 Monte Carlo
June 20-22 Red Bull ring
July 4-6 Silverstone
July 18-20 Hockenheim
July 25-27 Budapest
Aug 22-24 Spa
Sept 5-7 Monza
Oct 10-12 Sochi
Nov 21-23 Yas Marina

GP2 said the above dates Friday and therefore want do you think about the GP2 calendar?


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[TR Motorsport]

Originally Posted by skells22

dates
April 4-6 Bahrain
May 9-11 Barcelona
May 22-24 Monte Carlo
June 20-22 Red Bull ring
July 4-6 Silverstone
July 18-20 Hockenheim
July 25-27 Budapest
Aug 22-24 Spa
Sept 5-7 Monza
Oct 10-12 Sochi
Nov 21-23 Yas Marina

GP2 said the above dates Friday and therefore want do you think about the GP2 calendar?
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Good mix of events and good to see organisers reducing full season costs by only having 2 'overseas' rounds (Bahrain + Abu Dhabi) though a bit sad round at sepang has gone though, thought it worked well as season opener but if it brings costs down and helps more talented drivers get seats then i'm all for dropping the overseas races and just having gp2 based in europe

[bella]

shame they had to lose the decent one that really made it stand out. aside from the russian race being in a different place and the yas and bahrain races that looks rather like the 2013 3.5 calendar.

[p-matt]

It is a shame, but completely necessary. There wasn't much economic sense in going out to Malaysia and Singapore. At least the trips to the Middle East aren't that expensive and can be twinned with testing before and after the season.

It reflects a U turn in the way the GP2 organisers are thinking. A few years ago if I recall they were quite arrogant about the need for an expansive calendar and that they didn't need to cut costs. Now 3.5 has hurt them quite badly so it's good to see that they are reacting I have a feeling that the GP2 field next year will be stronger than 3.5.

[Go_For_Pole]

The question is: is this working? How much does a 2014 season with a decent team cost now?

[TR Motorsport]

Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

The question is: is this working? How much does a 2014 season with a decent team cost now?

with that calendar I'd estimate about £1-1.3 Million, which although still more than FR3.5, (top seat in FR3.5 will cost you around £900,000-
£1 Million) GP2 is deservedly more expensive as cars faster/closer to F1 in terms of performance and have same sort of tyres as F1, I expect the GP2 grid next year to much stronger, like p-matt, and to have more talent than $$$$ unlike last one or two seasons of GP2!

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Less £££s (or $$$s/€€€s/other currencies, PC and all that) but still a lot! Yes, some genuine talents will be on the grid, but we won't lose all of the pay drivers and will certainly get an extra few...

...any news on Felipe Nasr? This could well be his year...

[Go_For_Pole]

If it's near 1m euros it has some chance of doing well. For reference on the series debut budgets were around 750k

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

If it's near 1m euros it has some chance of doing well. For reference on the series debut budgets were around 750k

Add some inflation and that's not too bad, but considering that was pre-recession and it isn't too good either...

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Seems like everyone missed the news about Binder signing for Arden.

http://www.gp2series.com/News-Room/N...nder-for-2014/

[TR Motorsport]

Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

Seems like everyone missed the news about Binder signing for Arden.

http://www.gp2series.com/News-Room/N...nder-for-2014/

He might do well at Arden, as he showed some promise this year for back of the grid Lazarus, with points in the sprint race Malaysia and both races in Monaco, and coming close on several others occasions such as Monza with a clearly inferior standard of car (I know its supposed to be same for everyone but there is some difference between DAMS and Lazarus otherwise everyone would be winning) compared to those around him, so yeah it will be interesting to watch how he does next year in a mid-field and possibly front running team in the form of Arden

[Mekola]

Regalia is thinking about crowdfunding (in a bank account, not a crowdfunding website) as a mood to seek for budget for next year.