2018 Pirelli World Challenge silly season - Page 3

jjvincent · 29 Sep 2017, 20:50 (Ref:3770629)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

In fairness, Cadillac was in World Challenge long before they adopted GT3 regulations. I was surprised they built the car at all.

So was Porsche. Caddy got around the whole thing because you can actually run a GT3 car for about a year to develop it and then start selling it to others. It's that "we are not homologated yet but we want to race". If I run a Porsche, I have to run it as homologated by Porsche. Not just keep changing things because they car is not good enough. Plus if I run a Porsche, it's pretty obvious that if I change something as opposed to every other one out there, the word will get out. As for a Caddy, what do you compare it to? It's not like the competition will figure it out.

As for BoP to fix it, that doesn't happen plus GM knows they can't decimate the competition because they learned that lesson years ago (remember WC when they started or the GT1 Corvettes) as all of the competition goes away.

JHamilton · 29 Sep 2017, 21:15 (Ref:3770632)

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Originally Posted by jjvincent

So was Porsche. Caddy got around the whole thing because you can actually run a GT3 car for about a year to develop it and then start selling it to others. It's that "we are not homologated yet but we want to race". If I run a Porsche, I have to run it as homologated by Porsche. Not just keep changing things because they car is not good enough. Plus if I run a Porsche, it's pretty obvious that if I change something as opposed to every other one out there, the word will get out. As for a Caddy, what do you compare it to? It's not like the competition will figure it out.

As for BoP to fix it, that doesn't happen plus GM knows they can't decimate the competition because they learned that lesson years ago (remember WC when they started or the GT1 Corvettes) as all of the competition goes away.

GM provided a lot of support to World Challenge after Audi left and they desperately needed it, is my point. I'm not sure who will take that up but I haven't followed PWC closely in several years. I'm sure Cadillac was allowed to bend some rules, but I'm positive I read that the ATSV.R was homologated.

I remember GT1 well. I remember Viper kicking everyone's teeth in for years. Corvette "domination" is not what led to that class' downfall, but that's a conversation for another thread.

HORNDAWG · 29 Sep 2017, 21:42 (Ref:3770638)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

GM provided a lot of support to World Challenge after Audi left and they desperately needed it, is my point. I'm not sure who will take that up but I haven't followed PWC closely in several years. I'm sure Cadillac was allowed to bend some rules, but I'm positive I read that the ATSV.R was homologated.

It is, via the Ladoux homologation tests.

L.P.

carbsmith · 29 Sep 2017, 22:59 (Ref:3770642)

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Originally Posted by Bcarr6

DSC are suggesting PWC really want some Callaway C7 R's on the grid next year, and DSC seems to be optimistic GM will now allow that to happen

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That wasn't about next year specifically but rather in general.

The short of it is not only the Corvette the only American brand in GT3, because Callaway actually has its main operations in the US for selling modified GM vehicles through dealers they also have and plan to use the capability to have one of only a couple GT3 cars built in America. That means it could become to North America what the Nismo GT3 is to Japan.

Graham Goodwin · 29 Sep 2017, 23:05 (Ref:3770644)

Callaway now cleared by GM to sell C7 GT3 into IMSA GTD and PWC - http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...n-the-usa.html

HORNDAWG · 29 Sep 2017, 23:31 (Ref:3770649)

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Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

Callaway now cleared by GM to sell C7 GT3 into IMSA GTD and PWC - http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...n-the-usa.html

I think that is pretty damn good news!

L.P.

Bcarr6 · 29 Sep 2017, 23:54 (Ref:3770650)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

I think that is pretty damn good news!

L.P.

Well I second that, cracking looking and sounding car

Hope to see it in PWC then next year

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Mechanic Z · 30 Sep 2017, 00:19 (Ref:3770653)

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Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

Callaway now cleared by GM to sell C7 GT3 into IMSA GTD and PWC - http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...n-the-usa.html

Wow, that's fantastic to hear! Hope PWC gets one or two!

TRspitfirefan · 30 Sep 2017, 14:40 (Ref:3770736)

Nice to hear that there is a silver lining to the Cadillac news.

jjvincent · 30 Sep 2017, 16:15 (Ref:3770756)

Too bad the C8 is coming out next year. So a tuner C7 is nice but now the real trick is if someone will actually buy one and run it (remember how excited we all were when the Reiter Camaro was allowed to run in PWC). Sort of like a BMW or Lambo. Nobody runs one in PWC, yet they could.

nasportscar · 2 Oct 2017, 14:35 (Ref:3771283)

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Originally Posted by jjvincent

Too bad the C8 is coming out next year. So a tuner C7 is nice but now the real trick is if someone will actually buy one and run it (remember how excited we all were when the Reiter Camaro was allowed to run in PWC). Sort of like a BMW or Lambo. Nobody runs one in PWC, yet they could.

DIME ran a Lambo at VIR. Wasn't it 3R that bought the Reiter Camaro after they lost the KPAX deal, they were just looking for a customer or something.

MaskedRacer · 3 Oct 2017, 16:52 (Ref:3771548)

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nasportscar · 5 Oct 2017, 00:20 (Ref:3771898)

full spec TCR confirmed http://nasportscar.com/pirelli-world...for-new-class/

jjvincent · 5 Oct 2017, 00:41 (Ref:3771902)

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Originally Posted by nasportscar

DIME ran a Lambo at VIR. Wasn't it 3R that bought the Reiter Camaro after they lost the KPAX deal, they were just looking for a customer or something.

I'm not talking about a one off or something dreamed up in their head, but actual cars that are actually running over a season.

HORNDAWG · 9 Oct 2017, 20:58 (Ref:3773287)

Via Eversley ....

L.P.