2016 V8SC Malaysia Street Race Is NOT Go!!!!

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by one five five

It is pretty poor form that the series didn't have a back-up plan in place.

This outcome has been heavily rumoured for months

Except turning on any event is not the work of a moment. The Clipsal 500 management team start working on the following year's event the day after the race weekend is over.

Sure, putting an extra event on at Winton/Queensland Raceway/Eastern Creek would likely be possible if there was a gap in their calendars to accommodate it, but there would be additional impost on the teams to do so, given that much of their travel & accommodation & other relocation burdens in the Malaysian race meeting were set to be met by the organisers, and the teams would need to pay to get to & stay at any of these alternatives.

[GTRMagic]

Roland Dane Still Wants Asian Races

Originally Posted by The Article

The regional-based nature of modern sponsorship decisions had been trumpeted by the category as a key benefit of racing in KL.

“This juncture so late in the day is extremely inconvenient because we had activations planned in our case with Red Bull in Malaysia,” Dane added.

“We had other sponsors that had been keen to take people there and treat it as a special incentive.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Sure. Even if the Supercar series isn't there, the trip would still make for a bloody good holiday

So there is nothing to worry about then - those who bought tickets can just go on holidays. No cause for concern

[dsg]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

So there is nothing to worry about then - those who bought tickets can just go on holidays. No cause for concern

None what so ever. Lovely place for a holiday and so many fascinating local cultural destinations and events even the most ardent motor sport fan would barely miss the racing at all.

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

So there is nothing to worry about then - those who bought tickets can just go on holidays. No cause for concern

Or negotiate a reschedule to fit in with F1 or Moto GP at Sepang.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by dsg

None what so ever. Lovely place for a holiday and so many fascinating local cultural destinations and events even the most ardent motor sport fan would barely miss the racing at all.

There are 2 choices here, to get angry at everyone around for something that they didn't cause, or to accept it for what it is, and make the best of the situation.

Would it be better to live life powerfully, free of upset & anger, or to stand around and point fingers at people for pleasure? Either way, there isn't a race in KL this year...

[one five five]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Sure, putting an extra event on at Winton/Queensland Raceway/Eastern Creek would likely be possible if there was a gap in their calendars to accommodate it, but there would be additional impost on the teams to do so, given that much of their travel & accommodation & other relocation burdens in the Malaysian race meeting were set to be met by the organisers, and the teams would need to pay to get to & stay at any of these alternatives.

They did it in 2009 when Bahrain got cancelled by running an event at short notice at Phillip Island.

The fans were promised at 15 round championship, the teams have been racing all year, and scoring points, on what was assumed to be a 15 round championship. No doubt sponsorship would have been sold on being seen on Channel 10 and Fox Sports at fifteen championship rounds this year.

Indycar had a similiar scenario happen a month of so back, they stitched a deal on a replacement race together in quick time.

Given how long the rumours of this events demise have been going on for, it is unforgiveable to not have had a back up plan in place, you would think any professionally run business would have had this in place?

[dsg]

Originally Posted by one five five

it is unforgivable

Nothing is unforgivable (except eating shellfish I think, I'll have to double check Leviticus).

What if the backup plan was to have no replacement event? Would there be time to put together another event if the teams want one? Aren't circuits booked way in advance? Would the teams be willing to pay for this extra event as I understand the majority of cost for KL were to be paid by the KL promoters?

Otherwise lets just call this a mid season break. The crews could go on holidays to South East Asia. It is the cheap season.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by dsg

What if the backup plan was to have no replacement event? Would there be time to put together another event if the teams want one? Aren't circuits booked way in advance? Would the teams be willing to pay for this extra event as I understand the majority of cost for KL were to be paid by the KL promoters?

They did it in 2009?

What sort of professional business would have a back-up plan that was no back-up plan?

[Armco Bender]

No doubt the three spectators who were going turn up at KL are disappointed.

South Island NZ is gagging for a V8 race and you'd get a massive turnout for it.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by one five five

They did it in 2009?

What sort of professional business would have a back-up plan that was no back-up plan?

Why did they need a replacement event? You haven't explained why they needed one yet?

A back up plan that states that they dont need to replace an event is a back up plan, perfectly valid

[Matt]

Originally Posted by one five five

They did it in 2009 when Bahrain got cancelled by running an event at short notice at Phillip Island.

The fans were promised at 15 round championship, the teams have been racing all year, and scoring points, on what was assumed to be a 15 round championship. No doubt sponsorship would have been sold on being seen on Channel 10 and Fox Sports at fifteen championship rounds this year.

Indycar had a similiar scenario happen a month of so back, they stitched a deal on a replacement race together in quick time.

Given how long the rumours of this events demise have been going on for, it is unforgiveable to not have had a back up plan in place, you would think any professionally run business would have had this in place?

Using AOWR as an example is very poor form, as they're pretty much the poster child for cancelling OS races during the years.

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by one five five

They did it in 2009?

What sort of professional business would have a back-up plan that was no back-up plan?

One that had penciled income from going to Malaysia into the ledger, which would be replaced by outgoings if they were to race anywhere that wasn't going to pay them an appearance fee?

Maybe they tried Sepang and weren't able to get an appearance fee?

[chavez]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Why did they need a replacement event? You haven't explained why they needed one yet?

A back up plan that states that they dont need to replace an event is a back up plan, perfectly valid

Here is one reason.

The cancellation has meant that for any other driver than the championship leader it has just become harder to overtake the drivers ahead of them in the pointscore.

The one saving grace is that it has happened relatively early in the season. Just imagine if the penultimate or last round was cancelled and the effect that would have on the championship outcome.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Except turning on any event is not the work of a moment. The Clipsal 500 management team start working on the following year's event the day after the race weekend is over.

Sure, putting an extra event on at Winton/Queensland Raceway/Eastern Creek would likely be possible if there was a gap in their calendars to accommodate it, but there would be additional impost on the teams to do so, given that much of their travel & accommodation & other relocation burdens in the Malaysian race meeting were set to be met by the organisers, and the teams would need to pay to get to & stay at any of these alternatives.

I can tell you that calenders for NSW tracks are fully booked so it is not just a case of ringing up and organising a track, things don't work that way. Dates are worked out the previous year and it takes a lot of organising.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

There are 2 choices here, to get angry at everyone around for something that they didn't cause, or to accept it for what it is, and make the best of the situation.

Would it be better to live life powerfully, free of upset & anger, or to stand around and point fingers at people for pleasure? Either way, there isn't a race in KL this year...

Now if only we had the above response to the Homebush event cancellation rather than the one we recieved

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by Casper

I can tell you that calenders for NSW tracks are fully booked so it is not just a case of ringing up and organising a track, things don't work that way. Dates are worked out the previous year and it takes a lot of organising.

If V8SA wanted to run a round at a permanent circuit other bookings would be "moved".This is exactly what happened at Eastern Creek in 2012.Not saying it would be the thing to do or we even need a meeting with no regular supports at a circuit that already has a round but circuit availability would not be a problem.

[Umai Naa]

Would a trip to one of Mr Quinn's circuits be out of the question?

It's disappointing that the KL race has not come to fruition, but moreso that an alternative venue could not be sought.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Would a trip to one of Mr Quinn's circuits be out of the question?

It's disappointing that the KL race has not come to fruition, but moreso that an alternative venue could not be sought.

Why? would he go there, Is mr quinn prepared to pay them?

It was an extra round this year, it didnt happen, still have as many rounds as last year.

Unless someone is prepared to pay them they are not going anywhere and neither they should, They are not a public service

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Why? would he go there, Is mr quinn prepared to pay them?

It was an extra round this year, it didnt happen, still have as many rounds as last year.

Unless someone is prepared to pay them they are not going anywhere and neither they should, They are not a public service

Considering they promoted a 15 round championship (or whatever it was) - cancelling a race and then reducing the size of the championship is not a good look for the series. It may be inevitable however that doesn't change the impact of this.

[dsg]

Originally Posted by Armco Bender

No doubt the three spectators who were going turn up at KL are disappointed.

South Island NZ is gagging for a V8 race and you'd get a massive turnout for it.

No offence, but motor sport fans in Malaysia would outnumber those in New Zealand by about the same ratio as your sheep outnumber you.

[Gaz170]

Originally Posted by one five five

What sort of professional business would have a back-up plan that was no back-up plan?

Carnival Cruise Lines

(Sorry, still upset at how a missed stop in Hawaii was handled by them)