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Old 26 Jun 2017, 23:53 (Ref:3747139)   #46
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Stroll did well. Unlucky to lose second over the line but the Mercedes is clearly a faster car in a drag race. But a podium, around a tricky circuit, when chaos was everywhere, is a very good result.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 08:28 (Ref:3752086)   #47
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Good to see Ocon finally beat Perez. If Perez will never follow team orders and let Ocon past, then nor should Ocon let Perez past. It's not relevant who's faster or what strategy they're on.

Vandoorne had a decent performance for once and was holding off Alonso. Vandoorne was up to 8th at one point, although I think it was after the FI's pitted and before Ricciardo got past. But he was on for a point but then Massa got the undercut. Close at least, and he may have held off Alonso.

Stroll was right up there with Massa but then made an extra stop for some reason.

Magnussen decent performance, out of the points but ahead of Grosjean.

Wehrlein made 3 pit stops so must have had issues.

Palmer having the worst luck, even worse than Verstappen! I don't know why anyone, let alone Alonso, would want to replace Palmer at Renault. The thing is even less reliable than the Honda.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 10:44 (Ref:3752108)   #48
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Wehrlein made 3 pit stops so must have had issues
IIRC, He made 2 stops under Safety car: one to put the medium tire on for 1 lap, and then one to go back to soft. The 3rd stop was an extra stop for a new set of supersofts.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 16:32 (Ref:3752185)   #49
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Didn't notice that this is the first time Ocon beat Perez, but it's another good job in a very consistent season

Vandoorne beat Fred even without Fred's penalty, was holding his own in the race and just got pipped by Massa during the pitstops, but a good effort

Stroll has did well in Austria, less so in GB, but at least we know now he can drive well

Magnussen, agreed decent job, beat Grosjean who had an unnecessary collision with Ericsson

Wehrlein seems to be continuing where Nasr left off with arguments with Ericsson, no doubt though he is pushing that Sauber more than Marcus

Palmer, yes he is certainly up there with Fred and Max for bad luck this season. In the past five races he's been the collector of the worst position ever three times (11th) and had two mechanical problems, one in an high attrition race and one after just qualifying outside the top ten
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 01:00 (Ref:3762193)   #50
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Ocon ahead of Perez for most of the race, but it's clear Perez was faster. He had a 7sec pit stop with the penalty, Ocon pits 2 laps later and is somehow behind Perez? WTF was he doing for those 2 laps, 4 secs a lap slower? He certainly was mad about it and it would have been a big battle until Perez completely lost his head and tried to murder Ocon. Still Ocon close enough for it to be another good race for the rookie. But I fear this Perez battle is going to get to his head too much. I mean where on earth did he think he was going with that move? He was too far back to be going side-by-side into Eau Rouge. Those guys just need to be separated for a while instead of side by side at every race.

Wehrlein... hard to tell his performance when Sauber are so much slower than everyone else and then he retires. But wow is he really being replaced with Gio and Leclerc in the team? Leclerc totally deserves being in F1, though not in the slowest car, that's a waste. But Gio shouldn't be placed in the Sauber ahead of Wehrlein. When you look at how Leclerc has dominated F2 this year, Gio wasn't even close to his performance level in 2016, and wrecked in his last F1 race. I'm sure Werhlein in a Force India would be doing the same as what Ocon is and doesn't deserve the door already. Fred should be pushing for Perez' seat and Wehrlein could move to McLaren.

Perhaps Wehrlein could replace Palmer...

Speaking of whom, his career continues to barrel roll with more bad luck. Alonso pushes him straight off the track and no one cares.

Magnussen and Grosjean were together for most of the race, but Kev made an extra pit stop at the end which dropped him out of it. Not sure why.

Vandoorne, while Alonso was calling the race a test session, started at the back and finished at the back almost (apart from Kev and ericsson have 3rd pit stops). Did his f.lap on the last lap I think, 1.8sec faster than Alonso's. But maybe Fred had issues and never set a proper fast time. Vandoorne was pretty close to the main pack for most of the race though. He wasn't far off the pace. McLaren please tell Honda to gtfo.

Who else, oh Stroll. He couldn't really keep up with Massa in this one, but still made up positions. Probably lucky to get 11th but Spa must be tough on rookies.

So nothing special from the youngsters in this one, only Ocon nearly beating Perez but their battle is getting ridiculous and bad for the team.
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 09:05 (Ref:3762263)   #51
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Ocon's move on the first lap was over optimistic, while his second one was fair, Checo should have given him more room. They are both evenly matched, perhaps it's inevitable they have collisions

Wehrlein is doing his best in a bad car

Palmer, that's the best I've ever seen him drive on Saturday, then typically bad luck strikes, first with gearbox problem, then with gearbox change. If he ends the season with zero points, it will be a travesty.

Magnussen needs to watch himself with his driving, as we saw at Hungary and Canada. And what was that mistake he made at the chicane on the restart?

Vandoorne did well considering his 65 place penalty.

Stroll kept out of trouble at this tough circuit to finish just out the points
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 10:04 (Ref:3762276)   #52
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Yeah I forgot the first lap one between Ocon and Perez, but after watching it again now, it's really optimistic of Ocon to go and try that move again when he came so close to wrecking the first time. The second he was even further back. Perez was wrong to close the door the second time, but goddamn Ocon do you have a death wish? Just seemed so desperate to get back past his team mate that he did a move he probably wouldn't have done on any other driver. Trying that same move your team mate and heading into Eau Rouge side by side is just a little too aggressive imo, unless you're 100% side by side. Lost his head on that one. Not that Perez should have closed the door on him, but there was always a possibility that was going to happen. Ocon needs to calm himself moving forward and realise just being within sight of Perez in his rookie season is better than what all the other new guys are doing.
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 10:21 (Ref:3762281)   #53
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Perez took full blame for first incident, saying he was way down on power at that moment. Would likely have taken a big lift flr ocon to avoid that one, at a time when there were cars all around. That could have caused a huge wreck from behind.

The second, ocon had a big run. He was pulling along side quickly before Perez ran him right into the wall. Not sure how ocon could be blamed for either.

Looks to me like ocon is second most impressive rising star to verstappen, so much so that it is spooking his teammate into some bad moves.
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 13:03 (Ref:3762321)   #54
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Vandoorne is a tough one. The engine is clearly a boat anchor, and he's up against a tough team mate, but he's been a bit... anonymous. Given that he was being hailed as The Next Big Thing after 3.5 and GP2, and a creditable season in SF, I'd expected more flashes of brilliance.
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Vandoorne is a tough one. The engine is clearly a boat anchor, and he's up against a tough team mate, but he's been a bit... anonymous. Given that he was being hailed as The Next Big Thing after 3.5 and GP2, and a creditable season in SF, I'd expected more flashes of brilliance.
Yeah, as great as Alonso is, he's still only human. Vandoorne should have been closer to him by now. I still trust in Vandoorne's talent though, so perhaps he's just taking a while to get into the flow, perhaps the cars aren't even and most of the teams focus is on Alonso. I still think he's definitely the best of the new guys.
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ocon and verstappen were very evenly matched in f3, there's quite a few people (mostly french admittedly ) who rate ocon over verstappen. personally i'm with them, verstappen has been nurtured to be a superstar since day 1 like norris, ocon's had a bit more of a fight for it and he's right with them...

there's also something quite disarming about the way ocon is going about putting his teammate in a corner. whereas verstappen came across quite cocky, ocon is more... doing a perez to perez. i liked how he didn't apologise for being a bit dramatic on social media, he explained why he reacted like that and skirted around it whilst making it look like an apology. clever boy...
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I think Vandoorne is getting closer to Alonso.
Where the difference was 0.6 to 0.7 before, I think it is now 0.2 - 0.3 and sometimes he is even ahead.

He was ahead after Q1. Q2 doesn't really count as he didn't actually participate in that.

I think he made progress after McLaren told him to adapt his driving style and move away from his FR3.5-GP2 style.
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