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Old 8 Sep 2017, 10:29 (Ref:3765360)   #1126
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S griffin should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridS griffin should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridS griffin should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridS griffin should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Yeah, it's basically polishing a t*rd. It won't make it any better. Shame really
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 23:25 (Ref:3766172)   #1127
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And here I was hoping they would find a way to make them invisible!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...-yellow-jersey
As head of the FIA, is that the best Jean Todt can do?
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Old 12 Sep 2017, 04:10 (Ref:3766188)   #1128
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There can be little doubt now that it was a knee jerk reaction with no proper thought put into it!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...l-halo-details
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Old 12 Sep 2017, 08:09 (Ref:3766191)   #1129
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There can be little doubt now that it was a knee jerk reaction with no proper thought put into it!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...l-halo-details
With his stupid thoughtless ideas, I'd like to have knee jerk reaction to Jean Todt...
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Old 12 Sep 2017, 10:56 (Ref:3766223)   #1130
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Begs the question, how have F2 with their all new chassis, with a halo, got around similar load testing?

Given its a single design for the series, have they just over engineered the mounting points/chassis in that area?
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Old 12 Sep 2017, 15:02 (Ref:3766282)   #1131
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There can be little doubt now that it was a knee jerk reaction with no proper thought put into it!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...l-halo-details
My thoughts exactly
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Old 12 Sep 2017, 15:43 (Ref:3766290)   #1132
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Begs the question, how have F2 with their all new chassis, with a halo, got around similar load testing?

Given its a single design for the series, have they just over engineered the mounting points/chassis in that area?
good question.

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There can be little doubt now that it was a knee jerk reaction with no proper thought put into it!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...l-halo-details
i wonder if we starting to a see a narrative being formed through which the FIA and teams can back away from introducing the Halo for 2018?

if an adequate test cannot be created to determine proper installation then they may have the legal cover/liability shield to delay its introduction.
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Old 12 Sep 2017, 16:37 (Ref:3766305)   #1133
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i wonder if we starting to a see a narrative being formed through which the FIA and teams can back away from introducing the Halo for 2018?

if an adequate test cannot be created to determine proper installation then they may have the legal cover/liability shield to delay its introduction.
I personally think the whole business of cockpit protection should be re-evaluated. No adequate testing for the Shield was carried out, just a few laps and now this. This is about driver safety, so it behooves the FIA to get it right and not rush it.
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I personally think the whole business of cockpit protection should be re-evaluated. No adequate testing for the Shield was carried out, just a few laps and now this. This is about driver safety, so it behooves the FIA to get it right and not rush it.
agreed!
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I personally think the whole business of cockpit protection should be re-evaluated. No adequate testing for the Shield was carried out, just a few laps and now this. This is about driver safety, so it behooves the FIA to get it right and not rush it.
But, but... Vettle got dizzy?! What more is needed?

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But, but... Vettle got dizzy?! What more is needed?

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Old 13 Sep 2017, 11:09 (Ref:3766475)   #1137
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And most of the teams voted for the shield anyway
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I personally think the whole business of cockpit protection should be re-evaluated. No adequate testing for the Shield was carried out, just a few laps and now this. This is about driver safety, so it behooves the FIA to get it right and not rush it.
It behooves the .... to do something now, this thread has been running since 2011, and nothing at all has been done.

Just spec the supports to be capable of holding the halo till it will fail.
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Old 24 Oct 2017, 13:25 (Ref:3776099)   #1139
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No surprise that IndyCar won't be using the Halo.

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Old 24 Oct 2017, 16:46 (Ref:3776151)   #1140
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I'm glad, it was rushed through in F1, in mysterious circumstances, Indycar are not making the same mistake
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