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Old 27 Apr 2008, 18:37 (Ref:2188407)   #1
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Race stoppages - are they all necessary? (plus a bit of CSCC, Brands Hatch)

Another great weekend's racing run by the CSCC team - thanks Richards Culverhouse and Wos plus all the backroom boys and girls for a great event with a really eclectic mixture of races. The Swinging Sixties that I was happy to be a part of fielded a fantastic mixture of cars from Yank tanks to Brit tiddlers - and who'd have thought a Spitfire would get pole - well done Jon Thomason! Full grids and full fat excitement, roll on Mallory Park.
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Old 27 Apr 2008, 18:48 (Ref:2188411)   #2
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It's a shame the Thoroughbreds got tucked up with the race stoppage when other races used the pace car for similar incidents but then again I suppose that's the price you pay when you are supporting the organisers own series'.
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Old 27 Apr 2008, 19:25 (Ref:2188442)   #3
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How'd you get on Dave?

with hindsight I should have entered............would have been cheaper than staying at home.......a car rolled down our road and into my tow vehicle!!
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Old 27 Apr 2008, 21:38 (Ref:2188557)   #4
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Hi Wayne,

We qualified 19th out of 38, finished 10th and got class win and class fastest lap - sorry to hear about the wayward car!

Hi Tim,

Yes it was a pleasure to put a face to an avatar! Unlucky with the red flags, I guess there's always a timetable to keep to.
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Old 27 Apr 2008, 22:10 (Ref:2188598)   #5
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Good stuff, 2 out of 2 class wins.

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Old 28 Apr 2008, 08:46 (Ref:2188890)   #6
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It's a shame the Thoroughbreds got tucked up with the race stoppage when other races used the pace car for similar incidents but then again I suppose that's the price you pay when you are supporting the organisers own series'.
BTW, nice to meet you today Dave.
We really do get stiffed at these clubby meets - no reason that race should have been stopped in the first place a yellow there would have been fine, or it woul have have been easy to just wave on through the backmarkers up to the first car (pull the car out) and get straight back on with it.

Mega RACE though

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Old 28 Apr 2008, 08:52 (Ref:2188892)   #7
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One of the very reasons I dont bother with sprint races these days.!
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Old 28 Apr 2008, 09:20 (Ref:2188922)   #8
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One of the very reasons I dont bother with sprint races these days.!
I know what you mean - think I will do a few more longer ones as time goes on. But you can't beat the 100% aggression needed in a Sprint race, has to be a couple of notches back in a long one.

Plus if some (you main opposition) is going away - if will be even more frustrating to see them totally disappear.

Results - http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=club&...&eventid=81764

Restart and I might at least have been able to take it to the leader. Pity my camera battery crapped out - would have been an absolute corker.
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Old 28 Apr 2008, 09:55 (Ref:2188951)   #9
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zefarelly should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridzefarelly should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridzefarelly should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
one reason why I don't do sprints, some people take aggression in the wrong context . . . . you didn'r get the class win at the top of PAddock Hill bend on the first lap did you . . .

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I know what you mean - think I will do a few more longer ones as time goes on. But you can't beat the 100% aggression needed in a Sprint race, has to be a couple of notches back in a long one.

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Old 28 Apr 2008, 10:37 (Ref:2188975)   #10
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one reason why I don't do sprints, some people take aggression in the wrong context . . . . you didn't get the class win at the top of Paddock Hill bend on the first lap did you . . .
I did not get the class win (the winner was not in class B), was in the same class C as me. As were all the first 3

Lets just say controlled aggression. You really have to push it in those opening laps on a Sprint race. Especially against most of the cars ahead of you being in more powerfull cars.

Would love to see a video of the race if anyone has one. Thought we held of the Mogs well

Fun to interview the first 3 in the race rather than the drive from first in each class as we were having a good scrap. That D-type has some stomp, my the 6 has mega brakes Need a few more horses to get with my Nemesis (No.1). Will be picking them up in a months time............

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Old 28 Apr 2008, 13:04 (Ref:2189098)   #11
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It's a shame the Thoroughbreds got tucked up with the race stoppage when other races used the pace car for similar incidents but then again I suppose that's the price you pay when you are supporting the organisers own series'.
BTW, nice to meet you today Dave.
It's always a shame to have a race stop this way, but please don't think we were 'stiffing' you in any way... the use of the safety car in a race is up to your championship organiser.

I was in the pits while the throughbreds were racing so have no-idea what the incident was but decisions on race stoppages aren't made by the orgainsing club.
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Old 28 Apr 2008, 13:18 (Ref:2189115)   #12
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It's always a shame to have a race stop this way, but please don't think we were 'stiffing' you in any way... the use of the safety car in a race is up to your championship organiser.

I was in the pits while the throughbreds were racing so have no-idea what the incident was but decisions on race stoppages aren't made by the orgainsing club.
OK - let me reword that.

The people making the decision stiffed us not the organising club. We sat on the grid for 5 minutes. When they could have either had that car out of there by then and restarted it. Or just left it they in the first place (the car was a MG high up the Hill Paddock just at the top of the gravel trap) and put som yellows out.

No bloody need to stop it. Club racers are constantly getting stiffed JUST past half way in meetings.

I went off a few years back at Donnington (hold my hand up), at the first corner at Donnington on about lap 4 or something way before half distance but the kept it running a few more laps with my car in th gravel, UNTIL just past half the number of required laps and then through teh red flags and then obviously did not restart it. If that is not shafting people out of our hard earn money I do not know what is. They were just to dame lazy to stop it early and drag me out and restart it a few laps shorter.

It is endemic in UK Club Motorsport now.
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Old 28 Apr 2008, 14:15 (Ref:2189180)   #13
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I thought the Safety Car decision was the CoC's,it is one reason why he/she is present.
I think that the answer to this is in the feact that Circuit Hire is so high that the organising Club still has the rest of the days program to consider,five minuits delay on say,three races and you can kiss one sprint race goodbye!!

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I thought the Safety Car decision was the CoC's,it is one reason why he/she is present......
Quite true Terry, but you can only use it if its in the Supplimentary Regs; if it is in the supplimentary regs then its deployment is at the discretion of the C.O.C
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Old 28 Apr 2008, 14:31 (Ref:2189194)   #15
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Notice the "he/she" bit?
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