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Old 26 Feb 2009, 13:51 (Ref:2404617)   #1
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Today, on page 87 of Autosport, you will find a snippet about a new Late Model Championship that is starting. I have been itching to get on to you about this but we had radio silence until today.

It is silly that there are so many Late Model type Stockcars in Europe that are not on tracks and utter stupidity if we do not try to do something about it. CAMSO V8 was a reasonably successful formula in its own right, but it lacks profile and its momentum has stalled with the idea ďWe have a track, we have drivers we donít need to do anything else!Ē The story of ASCAR is long and complicated and been covered many a time on this forum and I donít wish to go over it again here.

The technical bits will be ironed out over the next month or so. Tony Roots will be working with Colin White to make sure that the ASCARs are every bit as fast as the CAMSO V8s on the short tracks and that everyone has an even playing field when we get to the first round. For those disappointed at not seeing a Rockingham, Duane is working on it, but, to be honest Rockingham cannot be the main stay of this new series. Not yet anyway. If the series is successful we will get a new oval. There are people that have invested in the V8s who will make one, if this is successful.

The media bits are being taken care of by two of our fellow ten tenthers, SS Collins and CAMSOgirl! For those that donít know them, SS is the editor of an engineering magzine and CAMSOgirl works for a P.R and media company, looking after such things as the WTCC. Both of them are doing this for the shear love of Stockcars and I cannot thank them enough. I will leave it to them to identify themselves if they so wish.

Another person I wonít identify is the person who has invested the money to make all this possible. We hope to recoup the money through sponsorship but we are in no way reliant on that, thanks to one person who had the unfortunate affliction of having an arm longer than his pocket was deep when I sent him the email that put all this together. I will show you how prize moneys will be allocated in another post along with incentives for people to join this new series. As with CAMSO V8, there will be no entry fees.

All that remains is for anyone left out there, who has an a ASCAR or a Late Model of some kind, to get in touch so we can get you some track time and see what we can do to help you race. A test session has been arranged for March with Rookie training available the day before, for the complete novice. CWS, Revolution Racing and Roots V8 Racing, all have hire cars available or can sell you a used or new race car

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Old 26 Feb 2009, 17:37 (Ref:2404761)   #2
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Sounds very exciting Kelvin and may i be the first to wish you all the best of luck.
Would be very interested to hear about any new oval circuit.
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Old 26 Feb 2009, 17:43 (Ref:2404764)   #3
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Would be very interested to hear about any new oval circuit.
Venray , circuit de Peel a 500 meter oval and a 1 mile oval .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=294XX5pn5tY

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Old 26 Feb 2009, 19:18 (Ref:2404836)   #4
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We are already in talks with Venray.
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Old 26 Feb 2009, 20:01 (Ref:2404869)   #5
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That's one idea - and I do hope it comes off.

I hear also that the owner of the Croix circuit in France is entertaining the idea of building an oval - I guess something 1/2mile to 1km...

If only Silverstone had pursued the 1/2mile banked - a-la Bristol oval that some of it's member proposed as part of the re-development a few years back, the world might be a different place now.

Me, I'm not interested in sub-1/2mile paved ovals - thought I could be tempted by a 3/8mile dirt oval in a Late Model dirt car......(I offered to bring one in from the 'States a few years back and demo it at NASA Autograss events, and got knocked back with all sorts of reasons why I couldn't do it) (also - not interested in Lydden or Mallory Oval - they're not proper ovals (banked, wall, stadium type, etc..).

And one more if only - the Velodrome built for the Olympics were built as a 33degree banked concrete oval, 1000m long (5/8mile), with enough space infield for two pitlanes (front and back stretch).... if you see where I'm going with this.....
And had a decent capacity grandstand....
It could be used by the spandex trousered types, as well as petrolheads....(running on Bio-fuel of course - to keep the greenies placated)

As I said on the official V8 Trophy forum - may you have the very best of luck with this, and to add that I hope it grows, because if it grows and circuits are built that meet my "criteria", I'll be there like a dog with two tails.

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Old 26 Feb 2009, 20:40 (Ref:2404894)   #6
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Venray , circuit de Peel a 500 meter oval and a 1 mile oval .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=294XX5pn5tY
When is this oval ready for action?
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When is this oval ready for action?
Smal oval 13 Apr

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Old 26 Feb 2009, 22:10 (Ref:2404943)   #8
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That's one idea - and I do hope it comes off.

I hear also that the owner of the Croix circuit in France is entertaining the idea of building an oval - I guess something 1/2mile to 1km...

If only Silverstone had pursued the 1/2mile banked - a-la Bristol oval that some of it's member proposed as part of the re-development a few years back, the world might be a different place now.

Me, I'm not interested in sub-1/2mile paved ovals - thought I could be tempted by a 3/8mile dirt oval in a Late Model dirt car......(I offered to bring one in from the 'States a few years back and demo it at NASA Autograss events, and got knocked back with all sorts of reasons why I couldn't do it) (also - not interested in Lydden or Mallory Oval - they're not proper ovals (banked, wall, stadium type, etc..).

And one more if only - the Velodrome built for the Olympics were built as a 33degree banked concrete oval, 1000m long (5/8mile), with enough space infield for two pitlanes (front and back stretch).... if you see where I'm going with this.....
And had a decent capacity grandstand....
It could be used by the spandex trousered types, as well as petrolheads....(running on Bio-fuel of course - to keep the greenies placated)

As I said on the official V8 Trophy forum - may you have the very best of luck with this, and to add that I hope it grows, because if it grows and circuits are built that meet my "criteria", I'll be there like a dog with two tails.

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Old 26 Feb 2009, 22:11 (Ref:2404944)   #9
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That's one idea - and I do hope it comes off.

I hear also that the owner of the Croix circuit in France is entertaining the idea of building an oval - I guess something 1/2mile to 1km...

If only Silverstone had pursued the 1/2mile banked - a-la Bristol oval that some of it's member proposed as part of the re-development a few years back, the world might be a different place now.

Me, I'm not interested in sub-1/2mile paved ovals - thought I could be tempted by a 3/8mile dirt oval in a Late Model dirt car......(I offered to bring one in from the 'States a few years back and demo it at NASA Autograss events, and got knocked back with all sorts of reasons why I couldn't do it) (also - not interested in Lydden or Mallory Oval - they're not proper ovals (banked, wall, stadium type, etc..).

And one more if only - the Velodrome built for the Olympics were built as a 33degree banked concrete oval, 1000m long (5/8mile), with enough space infield for two pitlanes (front and back stretch).... if you see where I'm going with this.....
And had a decent capacity grandstand....
It could be used by the spandex trousered types, as well as petrolheads....(running on Bio-fuel of course - to keep the greenies placated)

As I said on the official V8 Trophy forum - may you have the very best of luck with this, and to add that I hope it grows, because if it grows and circuits are built that meet my "criteria", I'll be there like a dog with two tails.

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Old 26 Feb 2009, 22:21 (Ref:2404949)   #10
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Absolutely Andy. As i said, money is not the problem but we must prove this racing is viable.

We are liasing with Croix aswell.

Beleive me we have this covered!
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Old 27 Feb 2009, 16:38 (Ref:2405500)   #11
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Looking forward to hearing what drivers are on board.
I assume you have been contacting the guys whos ASCARs are gathering dust.
Names like John Steward and I read in a interview that Hot Rod world champion Carl Boardly car is in a container.
Is there to be spotters?
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Old 27 Feb 2009, 16:50 (Ref:2405505)   #12
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I don't have an Ascar gathering dust but I will be in one of the Revolution cars for some of the rounds this year. It will be good to be part of some late model racing over here and I know Tony, Duane and Kelvin have been working extremely hard over the last few weeks to get the project off the ground. Hats off to all involved! This year I just want to enjoy my stock cars and get in some good side by side racing. It should be fun to see Ascars and Camsos mixing it up!
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You know it Daniel!
Very excited that you guys are comming to my home track, Lydden if im racing on the same day come and see me in the paddock with my little Mini!
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I'd really like to see you race on the Mallory mile. Any idea of a date, yet?

I discussed on another thread the fact that the new Anglesey track already has 2 straights linked by a shallow(ish) banked corner, spookily enough called "The Banking" on the circuit diagram below....."just" need to complete the loop, possibly at the corner known as "Church", although I suspect that this would have to remain a flat corner due to the way it would link in to the rest of the "road" course.

http://www.angleseycircuit.com/international.htm.

Might be a bit tight for you guys, I don't know enough about it, but it is quite a wide circuit.

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Old 27 Feb 2009, 18:36 (Ref:2405568)   #15
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There is issues with Mallory at the moment. An oval Legend driver was seriously injured there at the last Long Track Championship Meeting so people are a little nervous of this meeting I think. I don't have any details on talks with the promoter but when I know, you will know.
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