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Old 12 Feb 2012, 12:39 (Ref:3024861)   #16
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Providing it turns out to be true, this is a shame. The red/white/gold was pretty distinct amongst other runners in the field.

Idle speculation - perhaps they're trying to differentiate themselves (visually) from Toyota?
...by making themselves look like Kolles' 'Lotus' Lola LMP2...
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This is getting mildly silly- we'll soon have half the grid painted black and gold, and the other half in Gulf colours...
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Old 12 Feb 2012, 12:47 (Ref:3024863)   #17
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Completely agree. Might have been the best looking cars out there.

I want to hear some more details before laying into Lotus. A twitter exchange between our friend JAG and GG revealed they aren't bringing budget, facilities, engineers or responsible for Heidfeld's arrival.

Don't know what to think really.
So what are they bringing to the party- a pot of black paint and a couple of Lotus stickers?

Could it just be a case of Rebellion watches producing a branded watch for Lotus, as cmk suggested, and a livery change to promote that?
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Old 12 Feb 2012, 14:04 (Ref:3024881)   #18
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So what are they bringing to the party- a pot of black paint and a couple of Lotus stickers?

Could it just be a case of Rebellion watches producing a branded watch for Lotus, as cmk suggested, and a livery change to promote that?
It was mentioned in Autosport this week that Lotus were looking to step up to LMP1 with Rebellion rumoured. Didn't say anything about a watch deal. It could be a sponsorship deal similar to what MG did (are still doing?) with RLR but I find it kind of strange.

Maybe the thinking is more based around 'association' with motorsport, similar to what Bahar was dealing with at Red Bull. Meaning you don't actually have to build your own cars but if you create enough of a footprint through the motorsport world you register in people's minds as being synonymous with it.

It's not going to find any favour with traditional motorsport fans, but it could prove a cost-effective way of equalling what some manufacturers spend years testing and racing to achieve.
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Old 12 Feb 2012, 14:37 (Ref:3024886)   #19
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From a certain distance, I've always found Lotus' "combos" slightly confusing:
-There were F1s with various engine suppliers and iconic looks that changed with the cigarette brand du jour.
-And there were road cars that became Lotus because of some fiddling/tuning that was not quite apparent from the outside: Cortina, Omega. And of course the "proper" Lotus always used engine from other manufacturers, there was the 90's Elan that could have been badged as an Isuzu and there were various "engineered by Lotus" claims on cars like Hyundais.

So no, it's not new that the mark waters itself down. I just hope Rebellion profits from the deal.
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Old 12 Feb 2012, 18:45 (Ref:3024939)   #20
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It's a shame that if Lotus were going to dine out off their past glories they didn't pick this scheme for Rebellion.

http://blog.motorstv.co.uk/wp-conten...-028-Large.jpg
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Rebellion already had an iconic livery, their red, white and gold has been unmissable for the last two years.
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Wish they weren't ditching the red, white and gold - a unique and attractive livery.
Don't forget that Lotus did use red white and gold...

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Perhaps Rebellion could use the Gold Leaf colours in some way.
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Old 12 Feb 2012, 19:07 (Ref:3024957)   #23
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I loved the old livery, but if they were going for something a bit historical, how about the '98 TS020 livery?



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I love the current colour scheme however I also believe that the old JPS colours were the best I've ever seen on a race car. Perhaps I'm more easily pleased than most......
They were, but on a car that isn't sponsored by JPS or a company that uses the same colours it just seems fake to me.
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The above would be pure greatness IMO.
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They were, but on a car that isn't sponsored by JPS or a company that uses the same colours it just seems fake to me.

As far as I'm concerned, it just needs to be pleasing to the eye. I was never a member of the reality police.......
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When I think about I wish they were doing a form of Tribute to the Rothmans colours from Porsche/Williams. Don't actually think I've seen that anywhere but maybe that Cayman series in the US running historic Porsche livieries.
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So what are they bringing to the party- a pot of black paint and a couple of Lotus stickers?

Could it just be a case of Rebellion watches producing a branded watch for Lotus, as cmk suggested, and a livery change to promote that?
I was half-joking about the watch connection, though anything is possible. The comment that the 2010/11 livery is reminiscent of the classic Gold Leaf colours is an interesting one; it is as much the obsession with badge engineering that bothers me about the black-and-gold fetish Lotus has lately as it is over-saturating classic liveries. I never thought about Gold Leaf Lotus when looking at those Rebellion cars, I just thought it was pretty!
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John Dagys is tweeting the Rebellion will be black and Gold this year, but still known as a Lola-Toyota. It appears Lotus has taken over as main sponsor so they'll run their colors and Logo I assume.
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Just more money for Rebellion meaning they'll be the most well funded LMP1 team in the series and hopefully will spend those funbucks wisely.
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