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Old 11 Sep 2017, 00:56 (Ref:3765941)   #1501
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 03:59 (Ref:3765958)   #1502
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I wonder what are the 40 places for potential new GPs?
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 08:22 (Ref:3765975)   #1503
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Expressed interest, nothing else.

I suppose of you are expanding into new areas, a lot of countries would be interested.

But it is largely conjecture. Touting that you want new GP's to PM's and business leaders is very different to them agreeing to shell out 300 million to build a track!!

The sport has no presence in Africa which is poor. Sepang is going, I can see Thailand coming, maybe Indonesia. Honda certainly have massive presence there in bike terms.

Can see more Baku type venues coming, and maybe a couple more races in South America.
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 09:58 (Ref:3765989)   #1504
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Maybe they should have non championship events at these new venues first to see if they are worth it
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 13:08 (Ref:3766034)   #1505
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Expressed interest, nothing else.

I suppose of you are expanding into new areas, a lot of countries would be interested.

But it is largely conjecture. Touting that you want new GP's to PM's and business leaders is very different to them agreeing to shell out 300 million to build a track!!

The sport has no presence in Africa which is poor. Sepang is going, I can see Thailand coming, maybe Indonesia. Honda certainly have massive presence there in bike terms.

Can see more Baku type venues coming, and maybe a couple more races in South America.
But they have said they aren't interested in having anymore low impact events so I expect that rules out any more former 3rd world countries.
New venues will be either known or 'heritage' purpose built circuits or new street tracks in destination cities.

How long before we all get fed up with hearing 'Destination cities' trotted out?
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 17:23 (Ref:3766094)   #1506
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Africa really is the glaring omission. I'd like to see them race in Marrakesh or at Kyalami.
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Africa really is the glaring omission. I'd like to see them race in Marrakesh or at Kyalami.
Or Welkom, that looked quite a modern but flowing track when MotoGP was there, but like the Dubai circuit?
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The new Kyalami looks nice, so would love to see F1 there
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Old 12 Sep 2017, 15:21 (Ref:3766287)   #1509
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Just out of interest, what are the current circuits that hold Grade 1 or 1T status that haven't hosted a race recently?

I understand that Buriram is Grade 1, and I'm sure I read that Losail might be as well. Algarve, Mugello, Jerez all 1T I assume? And Vallelunga, which I didn't know

Kyalami I read isn't a million miles from 1/1T, but which other permanent facilities are up to scratch or close to it?
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Welkom was horrendously bumpy and I believe was run into the ground a little, all sorts of stories surrounding that place in various places!!

Had an oval aswell remember, though not sure anything ever ran there.

Kyalami cant even run bike races anymore, and was broke I think, so I doubt they could run a race without massive investment, and I think housing was encroaching significantly was it not?

I think Qatar will ne soon, can run under lights obviously, not sure about pits though? And no spectator area to speak of, though none of the big Arabic tracks do, but Qatar is small fan wise.

Has to eb able to be affordable.

Are the AbuDhabi, Bahrain GP's expensive to attend? Is that why no-one really goes? I know India was, as was Turkey, not sure about Korea.
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Just out of interest, what are the current circuits that hold Grade 1 or 1T status that haven't hosted a race recently?

I understand that Buriram is Grade 1, and I'm sure I read that Losail might be as well. Algarve, Mugello, Jerez all 1T I assume? And Vallelunga, which I didn't know

Kyalami I read isn't a million miles from 1/1T, but which other permanent facilities are up to scratch or close to it?
Grade 1T is no more. IIRC all it was was a Grade 2 circuit that paid some extra money to the FIA to allow F1 cars to test there. Jerez and Mugello are Grade 1. Algarve and Vallelunga are Grade 2.

The list as of July 17, 2017 of FIA licensed circuits by grade can be found here: "List of FIA licenced circuits"
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So from that list:
Heritage Tracks: Estoril, Fuji, Hockenheim, Imola, Indy, Instanbul (!!), Jerez, Korea, Magny, India, Valencia
New: None as the following are under 5.5km minimum F1 track length - Grade 1 tracks under 5.5km are: Buriram, Dubai, Moscow Raceway, Motorland, Mugello, Qatar

Plus any manner of long temporary street circuits as long as the cheque clears.
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Chunder, Porsche bought Kyalami and HEAVILY revitalized it.

While it isn't in F1 state, Welkom doesn't look dire by any means either.

The number of people in either the UAE or Bahrain who could possibly afford to go to ANY Grand Prix, much less one of those two, is quite limited. Populations of those countries, as well as Qatar, are quite small. Furthermore, all are inflated significantly by foreign nationals working there.
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JAB, I'm unaware of any 5.5-km minimum for F1. I think Appendix O would basically put it at either 3.5 or 3.7 km.

If there were such a thing, Shanghai, Bahrain, Qatar, Dubai, Istanbul, and India wouldn't meet it. That's two current, two (recent) former, and two potential circuits. That 5.5-km assertion just sounds absurd, and I'm aware of no codified basis for it.
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This could be the design of the circuit of Buenos Aires.
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