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Old 19 Mar 2016, 00:00 (Ref:3624052)   #1
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Quite a few interesting words today from IMSA VP of Competition Simon Hodgson regarding DPi and how things will start out in 2017...

One team already evaluating a DPi program, Greaves Motorsport.

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Old 19 Mar 2016, 00:21 (Ref:3624058)   #2
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What's not to like? You can have the opportunity to race for overall victories for races like Daytona, Sebring etc. They seem to have a solid plan, but I personally think we will see very few Dpi cars next year. The majority could be grandfathered p2 and wec spec p2 (which isn't a bad thing) but that's just me I could be wrong.
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Old 19 Mar 2016, 00:35 (Ref:3624065)   #3
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“I’m quite excited about the American racing and the way it will go,” Greaves said. “It seems like it will be more affordable racing than P1."

“There’s a willingness to do things. And trying to do something for $10 million is sort of doable. To do it for $150 million, you’ve got to have something special."


Is this the start of the end of P1 ?
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Old 19 Mar 2016, 00:38 (Ref:3624066)   #4
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What's not to like? You can have the opportunity to race for overall victories for races like Daytona, Sebring etc. They seem to have a solid plan, but I personally think we will see very few Dpi cars next year. The majority could be grandfathered p2 and wec spec p2 (which isn't a bad thing) but that's just me I could be wrong.
Welcome to the forum Aces! I agree, the timeline is short for getting new cars to the track at Daytona. First of all we haven't seen any of the 2017 P2 cars which will be the base for the DPi's so if there is any delay there it will further hamper the ability of a team/manufacturer to put together a DPi program. If we can get "regular" 2017 P2's on the grid at Daytona that is great, but that might be pushing it as well.

Depending on the source we have 4-8 manufacturers evaluating a DPi program. Will they all make it to the grid next year? Who knows.

Possible DPi's
Cadillac-GM
Mazda
Nissan
Acura-HPD
BMW
Lexus-TRD
Lambo/Bentley - some VAG brand
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Too bad it's performance balanced to the minutest detail, they're stuck on continental tires and there's only 4 chassis's to choose from. Besides that it looks like a good idea for manufacturers to get 'cheap' wins.
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'cheap' wins.
OUCH!
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What's not to like?.
It's the dp principle in a different shape. It's manufacturers buying sticker space and crediting themselves with a win.
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It's the dp principle in a different shape. It's manufacturers buying sticker space and crediting themselves with a win.
To be fair they also create an engine and some body parts.
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“I’m quite excited about the American racing and the way it will go,” Greaves said. “It seems like it will be more affordable racing than P1."

“There’s a willingness to do things. And trying to do something for $10 million is sort of doable. To do it for $150 million, you’ve got to have something special."


Is this the start of the end of P1 ?
No. But surely an evolution is coming.
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OUCH!
Cheap as in inexpensive (relative to lmp1).
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Alfa Romeo said their looking into it. Even though I kinda doubt they are.


Audi maybe interested. When IMSA send out their first engine regs, a 5.2L V10 was on the list, unless it was really Lamborghini.
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Alfa Romeo said their looking into it. Even though I kinda doubt they are.


Audi maybe interested. When IMSA send out their first engine regs, a 5.2L V10 was on the list, unless it was really Lamborghini.
Could be Audi as well. We really have little knowledge of who is doing what other than GM and Mazda.
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I think is a good idea, then the ruleset and the implementation of the rules will define if it will be successful. It would be also interesting if the ACO makes the DPi and the LMP1 private compatible.
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I think is a good idea, then the ruleset and the implementation of the rules will define if it will be successful. It would be also interesting if the ACO makes the DPi and the LMP1 private compatible.
Honestly, you can see the irony behind this, if you consider that DPi will be an lmp2 chassis powered by a not spec engine, that basically is what r-one and CLM already are .

Back to topic, to me there is only GM really interested for a proper DPi! very likely mazda, HPD, someone else, will just fit an engine inside a standard lmp2 without any bodywork update. The reason to me is simple: why spend money in R&D for a custom bodywork, when will be bop to screw you?
just ask oreca...

The DPi concept is great, but 2017 is the wrong year. It'd be worked in 2012 as new DP3 gen, forcing ford and bmw to follow GM path.
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I can agree with you regarding performance balancing. Manufacturers should make bodykits that are inefficient by it slightly resembles the whole brand/specific road car.

The only that counts is the driver's skill. Whoever is better on driving the DPi wins the race!
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