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Old 25 Apr 2017, 09:39 (Ref:3729073)   #1
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2018 F1 silly season.

Only 3 races into the season and the rumours have already started to circulate. Thought I'd get a thread up to discuss everything in the one place.

Rumours currently in circulation:

1) Sauber to sign an engine deal with Honda.
2) Alonso to Renault next year.
3) Raikkonen won't get another year at Ferrari.


Sauber and Honda rumours have been around for over a year now. I think it will happen. Sauber want's out of the Ferrari deal. Ferrari have held them to ransom for too long, making them them agree to whatever Ferrari want's, or else. Sauber have had enough. The Honda deal is expected to be for grade A engines, not the grade B engines Ferrari have been supplying Sauber since day one.

Alonso to Renault is interesting. In a interview a few days ago, Cyril Abiteboul didn't say no to Alonso next year. Alonso and Hulkenberg will be a strong pairing in the Renault.

Raikkonen booted from Ferrari? Hopefully true. Should've never been offered the Ferrari seat in the first place. He only got he deal because Ferrari wanted to prove a point to Alonso.
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Old 25 Apr 2017, 09:45 (Ref:3729075)   #2
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Enstone's development could get to a nice point by the start if next season if Alonso signs.... I think he would give anything just to get a sniff of a win at present.

Kimi was re-signed as a number 2 and that has been clear from the outset despite all the hype suggesting he was there as a defacto contender. His replacement will also be signed as a number 2 so that will be a key consideration for any of the possible replacements.
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Old 25 Apr 2017, 12:57 (Ref:3729118)   #3
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My guess:

Ferrari: Vettel - Sainz
Mercedes: Hamilton - Bottas
Red Bull: Verstappen - Ricciardo
Force India: Pérez - Ocon
Williams: Massa - Stroll
Toro Rosso: Kvyat - Gasly
Haas: Grosjean - Magnussen
Renault: Hülkenberg - Alonso
Sauber: Wehrlein - Ericsson
McLaren: Vandoorne - Norris
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Old 25 Apr 2017, 18:06 (Ref:3729159)   #4
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If - and it's a big if - Alonso leaves McLaren, I wonder if they might bring back Button for a year while Norris races in F2.
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Old 26 Apr 2017, 04:24 (Ref:3729224)   #5
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My guess:

Ferrari: Vettel - Sainz
Mercedes: Hamilton - Bottas
Red Bull: Verstappen - Ricciardo
Force India: Pérez - Ocon
Williams: Massa - Stroll
Toro Rosso: Kvyat - Gasly
Haas: Grosjean - Magnussen
Renault: Hülkenberg - Alonso
Sauber: Wehrlein - Ericsson
McLaren: Vandoorne - Norris
Would prefer Mr Ricciardo at Ferrari and Mr Sainz in the Red Bull... not likely however,,,
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Old 26 Apr 2017, 09:02 (Ref:3729244)   #6
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Would prefer Mr Ricciardo at Ferrari and Mr Sainz in the Red Bull... not likely however,,,
Why not? Ricciardo sounds like a good Italian name for the Italian team.


The Strategy Group meeting yesterday may have put an end to the Halo, shark fins and T wings for 2018! Yay!

The FIA and Liberty Media have also decided to invite a representative from every team to the Strategy Group meeting. Not just rep's from the Mercedes, Red Bull, Ferrari, Williams, McLaren and Force India teams. A very welcome move IMO.

http://www.fia.com/news/constructive...ion-held-paris
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Old 26 Apr 2017, 09:16 (Ref:3729250)   #7
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The FIA and Liberty Media have also decided to invite a representative from every team to the Strategy Group meeting. Not just rep's from the Mercedes, Red Bull, Ferrari, Williams, McLaren and Force India teams. A very welcome move IMO.

http://www.fia.com/news/constructive...ion-held-paris
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Old 26 Apr 2017, 13:49 (Ref:3729288)   #8
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If - and it's a big if - Alonso leaves McLaren, I wonder if they might bring back Button for a year while Norris races in F2.
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personal preference but if the 2nd Ferrari seat becomes available i would like to see what Perez could do with it.
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Ferrari might be an awkward move for any hotshoe under the current management. It's almost like Benetton in the Briatore Schi era.
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personal preference but if the 2nd Ferrari seat becomes available i would like to see what Perez could do with it.
Agreed. But I fear Perez (or any driver going to Ferrari for the next few years) will be playing second fiddle to Vettel. I think all the drivers are aware of this, and someone like Perez would probably be happy take the cheque and do as he's asked. Can't see anywhere else where he'd have a chance of winning a race or two, and getting paid handsomely for it. He'd do better than KR for sure.
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Agreed. But I fear Perez (or any driver going to Ferrari for the next few years) will be playing second fiddle to Vettel. I think all the drivers are aware of this, and someone like Perez would probably be happy take the cheque and do as he's asked. Can't see anywhere else where he'd have a chance of winning a race or two, and getting paid handsomely for it. He'd do better than KR for sure.
A bit Eddie Irvine-ish then?
He didn't seem to mind at the time, and made a lot of money (which he invested smartly, didn't he?)

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McLaren: Vandoorne - Norris
Hardly your dream line up, in terms of experience (1 full year combined) - not taking anything away from the talent of these guys of course.
I can't see that happen. Norris will be put through GP2/F2 before he goes to F1.
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Checo deserves a second chance in a top team, but whether he'll be a number two, an occasional beater or a potential champion remains to be seen
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Irvine said that being Schumacher's team-mate was like being hit over the head with a cricket bat every two weeks - but he was certainly well remunerated for the experience.
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Irvine said that being Schumacher's team-mate was like being hit over the head with a cricket bat every two weeks - but he was certainly well remunerated for the experience.
Plus, it seemed to fit in with his playboy lifestyle!
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