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Old 10 Sep 2017, 20:48 (Ref:3765921)   #121
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Verstappen passes cleanly more often than not. So no way comparable to the late de Crasheris

So Sainz in for Malaysia eh? Not a bad move if true, as it could also mean Gasly in at STR. Although it's hard not to feel sorry for Palmer


Hard to feel bad for palmer, he's not exactly shone at any point even when his car was working.




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Old 11 Sep 2017, 08:19 (Ref:3765980)   #122
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Hard to feel bad for palmer, he's not exactly shone at any point even when his car was working.




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totally agree.......he has had a season and a half to show what he can do, hardly performed any giant-killing races like other top drivers did when they were in lesser machinery.......Renault desperatley need points, so I think he needs to go......weather Sainz is the man or not, is another argument......but looks like he is going to get the drive regardless
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 08:55 (Ref:3765986)   #123
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Leave it out, did you not see Spa. He was driving at his best in quali, then his bad luck struck again. So he's not had the rub of the green, it would be a shame if he didn't get at least one point this season. It just wouldn't be justice
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 10:16 (Ref:3766009)   #124
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gert should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgert should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgert should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
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Although it's hard not to feel sorry for Palmer
He's not had a good season, but the last 2 race weekends were actually his best, so in a way I do feel a bit sorry for him.
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 11:50 (Ref:3766028)   #125
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Palmer's had his chance and isn't good enough. Sticking Sainz in before the end of the season gets his prep for 2018 going early.

While Palmer has had some reliability issues, he has also stuck it in the wall far to much too which is his own doing. I wouldn't mind if he was quick and doing so but he isn't. You can teach a fast driver to stop crashing etc etc.....

Hopefully Kubica gets a shot at Williams although will they risk having an unproven 'new' Kubica with a still unproven Stroll? I thought Strolls race craft in Monza was pretty poor and at this stage that's a little surprising - he kept coming out of the slipstream too early and wasn't decisive on the brakes before flat spotting his fronts. I don't think the Williams is as bad as Stroll and Massa are making it look.

Before anyone accuses me of Stroll bashing (Strolling...?), he's doing ok. He just needs to do better.
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 12:03 (Ref:3766031)   #126
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His dad Jonathan is not stupid, and I'm sure he now has the calculator out to determine the lump sum he will require to terminate his sons contract early, then I'm sure Joylyon will skip over the pond to either IRL or the IMSA series.

If Sato and Rossi can win the Indy 500, Joylyon should flourish over there
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 15:51 (Ref:3766084)   #127
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so it this Renault offering Sainz' a new contract or are RB just loaning him out for the 2018 season (and potentially the remainder of 2017)?

Palmer could still conceivably stay as the 3rd driver at Renault no?
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 16:30 (Ref:3766096)   #128
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Leave it out, did you not see Spa. He was driving at his best in quali, then his bad luck struck again. So he's not had the rub of the green, it would be a shame if he didn't get at least one point this season. It just wouldn't be justice
Been to quite a few GP this season and spent time in the pit lane etc , seen a lot of Palmer running slow or loosing track time, he has had a raw deal from Renault , it is impossible not to over drive when you have restricted running, the whole thing has been badly handled by Renault and leaves Palmer in a terrible position which he frankly does not deserve as you cant show your potential from the side of the circuit.
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Old 11 Sep 2017, 21:54 (Ref:3766166)   #129
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Been to quite a few GP this season and spent time in the pit lane etc , seen a lot of Palmer running slow or loosing track time, he has had a raw deal from Renault , it is impossible not to over drive when you have restricted running, the whole thing has been badly handled by Renault and leaves Palmer in a terrible position which he frankly does not deserve as you cant show your potential from the side of the circuit.
so did everyone

in all fairness, i think he posted some seriously and constantly competitive laptimes in spa (of all places) and ive read somewhere that spa was actually the first weekend of the season, when he was given the exact same spec as hulkenberg...

i dont think we are losing a big talent, but sure he would have looked much better if the team didnt use him as a guinea pig. also, from personal experience, he comes across as a genuine nice guy (maybe even too nice for f1), so while i dont think he is schumi, i do feel a little sorry, and certainly hope he will pull a few real confident boosting drives in whichever series he is heading to.
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