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Old 23 Jul 2017, 22:47 (Ref:3753829)   #31
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Personally I think that it's the combination of both things. Of course, his car and his feeling in the car leave a lot to be desired, with better car he would be able to fight for podiums and even victories. But on the other hand I believe that he's not as competitive as, say, 2-3 years ago. With 'better car' he would probably be as high as top 6-8 of the championship.
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 08:43 (Ref:3753887)   #32
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As drivers get older, they always lose a few tenths I am not particularly directing this at JP, but it's just a fact. They lose that last half a second and also the consistency to deliver it over a season.

This is not a criticism, just AD coupled with the increased responsibilities that come with age whereas the exuberance, pure confidence and lack of fear from young drivers is marks them out. I will lave the words on this to Dindo Capello on retiring from LMP1 at Le Mans at 48 years of age.

"Sometimes age is age - you cannot change it. When you fight for tenths of a second, everything should be perfect, and if this is my last Le Mans, one of the reasons is age. It would be nice to be perfect until you are 70 or so - unfortunately it doesn't work like that."
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 09:46 (Ref:3753905)   #33
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JP will win at Knockhill and we'll all call it a revival.

If he ever (when) retires from racing, I still hope he and his marketing team perhaps run a team or help to secure deals for other teams and drivers, as over the years that has been a huge asset to the BTCC.
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 10:48 (Ref:3753912)   #34
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That's what I feel - after retiring, JP should stay involved in BTCC, having a managerial role in some team or something like that
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 14:42 (Ref:3753945)   #35
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Why not the same calls for Matt Neal to retire? He is older.

Just because JP is in a slump, doesn't mean he is over the hill.
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 15:26 (Ref:3753955)   #36
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I agree here. Last years poor by JP standards was simply due to not having a competitive car until Oulton.

This year I think the same; the difference being last year all the Subarus were uncompetitive to start (not knowing how to get the best out of them) whereas thus year the car was wrecked on the first weekend. With no budget to right it.

I think JP and Matt have good years left in them...
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 15:27 (Ref:3753956)   #37
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Why not the same calls for Matt Neal to retire? He is older.
Because Neal is still getting the results that suit his position in a team that are working in a united effort to try and win teams and drivers titles?

Plato can only see results from his own individual perspective and is not interested in seeing a teammate take any honours?
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 16:55 (Ref:3753977)   #38
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“Ash is really very, very, very tasty. He’s got a brilliant career ahead of him. He’s got natural ability and he’s a racer, he’s fast and he’s a nice lad,” said Plato, who aims to use the mid-season break to once and for all sort out his own car.

“He could possibly win it this year and I will do everything I can to help him achieve that. He’s a real star of the future. He’s found his sweet spot and he’s enjoying it and driving brilliantly. Everything’s rolling for him at the moment, it’s just a shame I’m in a bit of a pickle because I want to be up there with him.

“He’s got his car really sorted. He’s at one with it, making little tiny changes and we are not in that place because we can’t get the car working.”
Yep, really sounds like someone who is only interested himself and not his team mate.
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 17:18 (Ref:3753982)   #39
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Yep, really sounds like someone who is only interested himself and not his team mate.
It's just lucky that whoever wrote that has clear enough handwriting for JP to read it!
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 17:36 (Ref:3753985)   #40
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Not sure, that's a big question mark. I suspect the car was a write-off, but perhaps they are able to build-up another from a space chassis or something?

Either way, testing with Rory Butcher suggests to me that he may get some race mileage too.
It certainly was, we cut the side out of it to extricate Luke!
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It's just lucky that whoever wrote that has clear enough handwriting for JP to read it!
It's a good job he managed to throw in a few comments about himself at the end of sentences! Otherwise you'd have been fooled into thinking it wasn't all about JP for a change.
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 20:47 (Ref:3754049)   #42
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Yep, really sounds like someone who is only interested himself and not his team mate.
Taking nothing away from Ash, he raced at the sharp end of the grid. Everybody’s got relatively good corner speed and there’s a rhythm and a momentum to the race. If you’re near the back it all stops in the corners and our performance is all in the corners.

“He drove a great race one and then had the benefit of that better grid position and the softer tyres. But unless we fix our power, then it’s possible Ash will have a weekend like mine.”

There's a difference between sounding interested in your teammates success for the sake of positive column inches, and genuinely believing it and showing it on the track. Ask AT-S or Turks how much he works as a teammate.
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 21:26 (Ref:3754073)   #43
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There's a difference between sounding interested in your teammates success for the sake of positive column inches, and genuinely believing it and showing it on the track. Ask AT-S or Turks how much he works as a teammate.
Don't think AT-S is an example of how a team mate should behave.
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Old 25 Jul 2017, 01:08 (Ref:3754119)   #44
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Because Neal is still getting the results that suit his position in a team that are working in a united effort to try and win teams and drivers titles?
That is exactly my point, it has nothing to do with age and likely everything to do with the car.

It might just be that JP can't adjust to RWD.
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Don't think AT-S is an example of how a team mate should behave.
Maybe not, but something led him to feel he had to provide no support to Plato?
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