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Old 26 Aug 2017, 20:11 (Ref:3761748)   #16
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Not sure what relevance a top speed chart has when discussing lap times? Wouldn't it be better to show a lap time chart?
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Old 26 Aug 2017, 20:44 (Ref:3761752)   #17
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Not sure what relevance a top speed chart has when discussing lap times? Wouldn't it be better to show a lap time chart?
Wasn't the complaint last time that the Subarus were too fast in a straight line? I suppose that's the relevance.
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Old 26 Aug 2017, 21:06 (Ref:3761759)   #18
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Wasn't the complaint last time that the Subarus were too fast in a straight line? I suppose that's the relevance.
Pretty sure that's what the speed chart is getting at! The moans have been about the Subaru's straight line speed.........
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Old 26 Aug 2017, 21:10 (Ref:3761762)   #19
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Oh right. I was assuming it was all about the driven wheels. I think mr porsche has jumped to a conclusion far too early, but Knockhill was clearly a RWD circuit and we did keep reading that it'll be different at Rockingham. So it does look a little silly when a RWD car is on pole after those comments.

Although it does backup that the Honda is massively pegged back. And I did say that Newshams car was underpowered at Knockhill and I was told I was clearly wrong and it wasn't, yet on that chart it's pretty bad. So yeah, that chart just backs-up the obvious observations from Knockhill.
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Old 26 Aug 2017, 23:01 (Ref:3761777)   #20
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why the heck did TOCA strangel the Hondas so much ? do they really want an all RWD title battle between Sutton and WSR ? because every other FWD car is out of it

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I was absolutely wringing the neck out of the car, but to explain where we are, you just have to look where we are in the speed traps. Over the finish line we’re 30th and 31st (with Shedden and Simpson)

We’ve just got to make sure we don’t get the thing smashed up in the midfield – when you consider who we’re surrounded by. We just can’t live with them on the straights at the moment. I wish I could paint it better than that – it’s the same car I stuck on pole twice at the beginning of the year, but we can’t fight in it
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Old 26 Aug 2017, 23:04 (Ref:3761778)   #21
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and seems Jack Goff also thinks the Subarus have too much boost

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All credit to James for putting it on pole, but if you were to take the weight out of Ashs car in P4, hed have been three or fourth tenths of a second up the road. Im interested to see how they police it

BTW should we really for Colin to be champ ? as each time it happened he lost his seat with WSR....

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Old 26 Aug 2017, 23:19 (Ref:3761779)   #22
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As I see it there really is not that much between the fastest and the slowest car on that chart.

Go forth and compare the gaps between fastest and slowest in F1 or Nascar for example and they are much much bigger.

Cole really does seem to have come on in leaps and bounds. Has he really improved his driving or has he learnt how to get the best from the car? Or indeed both these things? I've been critical of him in the past and am now taking it back. Go on young man, get it on the podium tomorrow morning!
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Old 26 Aug 2017, 23:30 (Ref:3761782)   #23
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Surprised to see how low down the speed trap charts the Subaru is there. I think a bit more respect should be shown to James Cole, he's up there on merit and has closed the gap to Sutton and Plato rather than enjoying an advantage due to boost. As the speed trap data shows on the first page. All credit to him, he seems to have really got a handle on that car.

Top 27 cars covered by less than a second on a pretty long track, looks like TOCA are doing a pretty decent job of equalizing the cars to me. The only anomaly being the Hondas who shouldn't be as low as they are, although the gap isn't as big as their drivers like to make out (as all drivers do I hasten to add).
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Old 26 Aug 2017, 23:48 (Ref:3761783)   #24
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why the heck did TOCA strangel the Hondas so much ? do they really want an all RWD title battle between Sutton and WSR ? because every other FWD car is out of it
The BMW's and Sutton are all in the bottom half of the speed trap times, so TOCA aren't strangling Honda in favour of the other title contenders.

The simple thing about today's qualifying is that the Subaru and BMW carried their ballast better than the Honda.
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 10:21 (Ref:3761869)   #25
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Any predictions for today? I'll guess...

R1 - Sutton
R2 - Goff
R3 - M. Jackson

....with a podium for HARD
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 10:33 (Ref:3761871)   #26
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Alfa Romeo are joining the BTCC, headline published early on the mobile version of BTCC.net
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 10:50 (Ref:3761881)   #27
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I love the way it has been a great second half of the season for the maligned James Cole
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 11:55 (Ref:3761906)   #29
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I can hear Shedden crying now, but Neal up near the top and with fastest lap...
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 12:07 (Ref:3761909)   #30
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Well done James Cole. He's had plenty of doubters on here, but that was a very impressive drive.
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