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Old 2 Sep 2017, 18:12 (Ref:3763853)   #31
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Well, when it did get going it was pretty entertaining. Great job by Stroll and Ocon and a miserable performance by the Ferraris. As to Hamilton, it was as superb as it seemed inevitable.... Even the farcical penalties situation was forgotten - if only for a few moments.....
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Old 2 Sep 2017, 18:18 (Ref:3763856)   #32
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So everyone lower than about 7th moves up 6 places or so. Crazy..We will have Saubers in the points next..mad..
Back to "Three Word Story" in Parc Ferme, least thats sensible..
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Old 2 Sep 2017, 18:35 (Ref:3763862)   #33
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I thought C4 were going to have live qualifying rather than delayed highlights!

Would I be correct in thinking that M. Grosjean was the only one that was complaining about the conditions?
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Old 2 Sep 2017, 19:04 (Ref:3763867)   #34
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I suspect Vettel and Raikkonen were less than delighted as well.....
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Old 2 Sep 2017, 20:04 (Ref:3763883)   #35
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What a joke qualifying was....whats the point in having a top ten qualifying if half the cars can't start in the grid positions.
F1 is just taking the mick(substitued for the rude word because its Sunday morning here and most people are at church) with F1 watchers..

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Old 2 Sep 2017, 20:13 (Ref:3763890)   #36
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Grid penalties give qualifying the air of farce. It's lucky Hamilton stole the show otherwise the RBR frontrow-that-never-happened would've created a terrible impression. There's gotta be another way.

And making an announcements for announcements is more nonsense. Just silly overbureaucratic rubbish.

I've no problem with them lining up according to championship rankings in such cases that they can't get it in on Saturday after a sane delay. I think that may even be better than doing qualifying on a Sunday morning that relatively few would watch.
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The GP2/F2 race was a cracker,why can't F1 put on a show like that?.
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Old 2 Sep 2017, 23:59 (Ref:3763932)   #38
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We almost had Stroll, Ocon on the front row for tomorrow, how amazing would that be?

If not for Hamilton. Can someone please chuck a spanner in his engine tomorrow? So sick of him always at the front. He'll probably just cruise off to another win tomorrow and take the points lead Luckily we've got F2 to be excited about.

Horner will have his head under a rock, of all the places to take those penalties he chooses the race where they qualifying 2-3.

Nice to see Vandy outqualify Alonso. Same with Stroll and Ocon.
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Old 3 Sep 2017, 01:53 (Ref:3763952)   #39
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Williams say they have no idea why they were quick in qualifying, with a chassis that naturally does not like wet weather, and slow speed track conditions. This really does summarise the engineering situation at Williams doesn't it? So sad for Williams F1.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/w...ifying-948524/

On a positive note, Stroll did an exceptional job (P4 in Q3, P2 for the start) considering where is more experienced team mate was (P9 in Q3, P7 for the start). Watching the onboards, Stroll handled the wet conditions very well. He wasn't doing his usual sawing of the wheel as much as he does in the dry. Much smoother in the wet. He seems to like the wet and slower conditions. If he can adapt this same driving style for the dry, he would do well. I'm guessing this is something he's working on with his frequent 'secret tests' in the '14 Williams car. The last one being in Austin just before the Belgium GP.

As for the wet conditions, they say the best drivers always shine during wet conditions. And five of the top ten at the end of Q3 I rate as some of the best and more talented drivers on the grid. And that's based on natural, gifted talent. Not by how many wins they have. And no, SV and KR are not on that list. Sorry.

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Does anyone know what this refers to?

"Sadly, major issues with the timing system, not to mention the long delay in getting the session resumed, have taken the shine off what was a scintillating performance, not just by Hamilton, but Stroll, Ocon and the RedBull duo."

https://www.pitpass.com/60016/Hamilt...-pole-at-Monza

Are the published results accurate?
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At least Vettel is good enough to admit he isn't as good as most people think. With a top ranked chassis (better than the Mercedes IMO) and a top ranked engine (2nd only to the works Mercedes), he (and KR) could only manage eighth and seventh respectively in wet conditions. Says a lot about both of their natural and gifted driving talents.

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Old 3 Sep 2017, 02:24 (Ref:3763960)   #42
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At least Vettel is good enough to admit he isn't as good as most people think. With a top ranked chassis (better than the Mercedes IMO) and a top ranked engine (2nd only to the works Mercedes), he (and KR) could only manage eighth and seventh respectively in wet conditions. Says a lot about both of their natural and gifted driving talents.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/i...ri-qualif.html
Or something about the wet weather set up of the Ferrari.

Bear in mind tomorrow's race is forecast to be dry.
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Old 3 Sep 2017, 02:25 (Ref:3763961)   #43
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Are the published results accurate?
Yeah I've read that Ferrari fans are questioning the results as they cannot believe the cars are only 7th and 8th on the grid. And I completely agree with them. The cars are much better than 7th and 8th. Much, much better.
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Or something about the wet weather set up of the Ferrari.
Umm.. you mean the dry weather set up and the small tweaks for wet weather?? The same set up and tweaks that the entire grid had done before qualifying?

Do you know for sure Ferrari was on a wet weather set up? And will they then be given permission to change the cars to a dry weather set up for the race under "exceptional circumstances" ??

So then, with the only wet weather set up on the grid, and one of the best chassis and engine combo's on the grid, the Ferrari drivers only managed to qualify seventh and eighth!?? Wow! This is worse than I thought it was.
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Yeah Seb Vettel is pretty useless in the wet... The guy that won Monza in 2008 in a Torro Rosso, he goes alright though.

You're clueless F1Guy. Are you Crofty by any chance?
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