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Old 6 Sep 2017, 19:58 (Ref:3765035)   #1
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BTCC 2017 - Rounds 25, 26, 27 - Silverstone

Almost time for the penultimate round of the championship... any predictions for winners / podiums?

Must be about time for Jake Hill to get on the podium, he went very well around here last year.

Shame for Josh Cook who will miss the first race if the appeal is unsuccessful - ideal track for the MG. Maybe a chance for Taylor-Smith to get back up the front too.

And please, can we not get into another argument about RWD / FWD / Subaru / BOP and enjoy some close racing?
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Old 6 Sep 2017, 20:57 (Ref:3765054)   #2
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If Cook's appeal fails then will TBL requirements mean that MG have to run a replacement driver? And if they do, then who?
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 07:05 (Ref:3765124)   #3
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If Cook's appeal fails then will TBL requirements mean that MG have to run a replacement driver? And if they do, then who?
Interesting question. I thought that the teams were only allowed to replace a driver once during the season, and of course Cook has already joined as a replacement...
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 07:17 (Ref:3765129)   #4
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If Cook's appeal fails then will TBL requirements mean that MG have to run a replacement driver? And if they do, then who?
I don't think they will need (or be allowed) to enter another driver.
The TBL requirements are for them to attend the event with car and driver - it is then the organisers who are excluding them from the race rather than the team failing to meet TBL requirements.
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 09:06 (Ref:3765147)   #5
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I think he's only banned from the first race, so surely he would allowed to start R2 from the back
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 09:30 (Ref:3765153)   #6
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I think he's only banned from the first race, so surely he would allowed to start R2 from the back
Yes, the sporting regulations stipulate that driver(s) are excluded from the next available race, not the whole meeting.
It would be possible for a driver to pick up a penalty like this after race one for instance, at which point they would be excluded from race two. In that case, there is no way you could justify that a team had failed to meet TBL requirements. Otherwise you are effectively writing into the regulations that a driver being excluded from the next race means a team loses it's TBL.
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 13:47 (Ref:3765174)   #7
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I had assumed he was banned for the entire meeting, but just the first race would make more sense. In which case the TBL is not an issue as they will still be present at the meeting, just not starting every race - no different from a DNS in race 3 due to a mechanical issue.
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 14:39 (Ref:3765182)   #8
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For clarification, the official BTCC releases stated:

'Round 23:
Josh Cook was officially reprimanded and received two penalty points for an incident involving Mat Jackson, which was his third strike and meant he would start Round 24 from the back of the grid

Round 24:
Josh Cook was fined 500 and received three penalty points for an incident involving Stephen Jelley, which was his fourth strike and constitutes a one race ban. MG Racing RCIB Insurance have appealed the decision, which will be heard on Friday 15 September at Silverstone.'


Sporting regulation 4.4.5 reads:
'4.4.5 Any driver who has received three reprimands (including verbal and/or written warnings and/or any such penalty as may relate to driving standards at the discretion of the BTCC Clerk) will, on receiving the third reprimand be given the additional penalty of starting the next available race from the rear of the grid and a deduction of three points from their Championship tally in the Drivers Championship and, if applicable, the Independent Drivers Championship.
On a fourth reprimand the driver will receive a one-race ban to be taken at the next available race, on the fifth reprimand the driver will start the next available race from the rear of the grid, and on the sixth reprimand the driver will receive a two-race ban to be taken at the next available races. Every reprimand from and including the third reprimand will also receive a deduction of three points from their Championship tally in the Drivers Championship and, if applicable, the Independent Drivers Championship. Drivers must carry the appropriate Championship/Success
Ballast for the race in which they would normally have started prior to the application of any such penalty.'



Given that the appeal is being heard on the 15th - it would be fairly difficult to have a driver in reserve who may not be racing if the appeal is not upheld.
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 15:16 (Ref:3765189)   #9
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Given that the appeal is being heard on the 15th - it would be fairly difficult to have a driver in reserve who may not be racing if the appeal is not upheld.
Indeed, hence the question
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Indeed, hence the question
It's only one race. He can still race in the two others at the Silverstone round.
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Old 8 Sep 2017, 13:04 (Ref:3765428)   #11
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https://www.touringcartimes.com/2017...dical-grounds/

No Tom Chilton at Silverstone.

Hunter Abbott in?
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Old 8 Sep 2017, 21:27 (Ref:3765506)   #12
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Will be interesting to see whom.
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Old 9 Sep 2017, 09:09 (Ref:3765617)   #13
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Bit of a shame for Sonic, at least he won't miss any WTCC races as well. I can see Hunter being a temporary replacement
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Old 9 Sep 2017, 11:10 (Ref:3765636)   #14
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Dan Lloyd maybe?
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Old 9 Sep 2017, 21:19 (Ref:3765716)   #15
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how about Max Chilton replacing his brother just for next weekend therefore like the smiths only change the number
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