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Old 13 Jan 2005, 22:54 (Ref:1200374)   #16
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I thought that the 05 in car in the museum is authentic, and that it was the 25 car that went OS... Wasn't the Farrell car self-built with a turbo six or something? All I remember about that car was whatever I saw of it on an old Ch.7 telecast where it was running among the sports sedans, and while my first youthful impression was that it was an old Gp.C car, I'm sure that this wasn't the case.... but that's a long time ago, I mightn't have paid a great deal of attention, and what do I know anyway?
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Old 13 Jan 2005, 22:59 (Ref:1200382)   #17
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I think the car in the museum is 05, brought back from Europe & restored - refer Muscle Car mag.
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Old 13 Jan 2005, 23:09 (Ref:1200390)   #18
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Henry, I don't know whether Farrell had another car or whether that car ended up as a sports sedan, but Farrell definitely had an ex-HDT Group A Commodore that he raced in ATCC rounds at Wanneroo and AIR. It ran in the 1986 HDT colourscheme, even after Farrell updated the car to HDT VL spec.
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Old 13 Jan 2005, 23:23 (Ref:1200404)   #19
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Did the 25 car go to the principal of Watson Holden, Bundoora Vic?
The one that sat on top of Watson Holden for years and years?
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Old 14 Jan 2005, 00:01 (Ref:1200434)   #20
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The one that sat on top of Watson Holden for years and years?
Not sure if it was the orignial or a show car. I think it was the original, but haven't seen it there for many, many years
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Old 14 Jan 2005, 00:07 (Ref:1200439)   #21
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I think the car in the museum is 05, brought back from Europe & restored - refer Muscle Car mag.
Oh. My understanding was that it went straight to the museum at the completion of the 1984 season.... here I am assuming that we are discussing the Gp. C car...

Bob Stevens was campaigning one of the 1985 HDT cars in early 1986, basically only with Mobil signage removed and Gp.A spoiler kit added.... or was it Graeme Moore? (Think it became the Strathfield car didn't it?)
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Old 14 Jan 2005, 00:40 (Ref:1200451)   #22
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Didn;t the 84 vk 05 go to Europe (Thunder sports) and come back get restored and have a run at Sandown about two years ago I had a picture of it with Peter and Larry standing with it Brock in Holden red suit and larry in Castrol on my desk top.
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Old 14 Jan 2005, 00:52 (Ref:1200462)   #23
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Didn;t the 84 vk 05 go to Europe (Thunder sports) and come back get restored and have a run at Sandown about two years ago I had a picture of it with Peter and Larry standing with it Brock in Holden red suit and larry in Castrol on my desk top.
I thought I had heard that the 25 car was the car that the Clelands bought for the Thundersports races... as previously posted, I was under the impression that the 05 car resided permanently in the Bathurst museum bascially from the moment it's Australian Touring car career ended, until the present day.

While the Warren Cullen Gp. C VK was converted to Gp. A for 1985 (unsure if this was the car that Grice fenced in practice for the 1985 Great Race or if it was the spare car), what became of the Grice/Harrington VK at the end of 1984?
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Old 14 Jan 2005, 00:58 (Ref:1200466)   #24
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My recollection is 05 to Farrell, at that time Brockys fishing mate in WA, then on to the UK.
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Old 14 Jan 2005, 01:52 (Ref:1200487)   #25
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Just check on V8 Supercars.com.au in archive was a big to do over the car coming home and being reunited with LPand PB.Dont know if it would still be there or not.
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Old 14 Jan 2005, 02:35 (Ref:1200514)   #26
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Of the two Marlboro VKs, the story as issued in one of the Brock magazines was that it was definitely the 05 car that went to John Cleland and has now been returned to Australia and restored and appeared at the Sandown 500 a couple of years ago. The 25 car was renumbered as 05 and has resided in the Bathurst museum all these years.

The car that sat atop the roof at Watson's was, IIRC, the 82/83 Bathurst winner, although there were a couple of different stories about where the 25 car had gone after it left the HDT. One was that it was sold to Harris, the other was that it was sold to Jim Keogh. In any event, it was the Harris car that was on top of a building. That car has been restored and took it's place in the parade of Holden Bathurst-winning Commodores that they had before the 1000 a couple of years ago, but it's been restored to the 82 livery with the 83 bodykit.

EDIT: On the Roadways VK, there was a story in Australian Muscle Car a few issues ago; the car was found in the corner at Re-Car in Melbourne - complete and unmolested - in average condition but in the exact same configuration as it had finished its last race in 1984. It even had the 'Roadways Racing' wheel covers!

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Old 14 Jan 2005, 04:12 (Ref:1200545)   #27
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Actually, ignore everything after the first paragraph of my last post. Really should check my sources before I post, but there you go. After reading through the various magazines, here's what I've found:

- The Roadways car that was unearthed was the #36 car, the VH not the VK. I haven't found anything about the VK's whereabouts.

- The car that sat atop a Holden dealership was Brock's 1983 #05 car, the car that failed early on at Sandown and Bathurst. An article in Unique Cars says that the car had only done two races, but I thought this car did the 1984 ATCC as well as the Silastic 300 and Pepsi 250? Peter Champion bought this car and has had it restored.

- The 1982/3 Bathurst-winner was sold to Andrew Harris, who used the car throughout 1984. The car spent some time in the Norwell Museum before it was sold to Peter Champion. In that same Unique Cars article, Champion is quoted as saying the car, "is how it finished the race" which I don't understand, because it's wearing the 1982 #05 Marlboro livery, but has the late-1983 flares and spoilers.

- The 1980 Bathurst-winning VC was the car that went to Jim Keogh, who ran it throughout 1983 and '84. According to a letter in Australian Muscle Car, this car has been purchased and is being restored to its Bathurst-winning state.
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- The 1980 Bathurst-winning VC was the car that went to Jim Keogh, who ran it throughout 1983 and '84. According to a letter in Australian Muscle Car, this car has been purchased and is being restored to its Bathurst-winning state.
Does that include the half a front spoiler after his collision with the Country Dealer Team Gemini?
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The spoiler had been jettisoned previously while battling the Nine Camaro I had thought...
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A lot of confusion there if anyone knows the definitive where abouts of the 86 brock/moffat vk i am very interested in aquiring it.
and yes guys acording to mr p. brock 05 did go overseas to john cleland no. 25 was renumbered 05 and has been on display pretty much since the last group c race in 84. of course the museum director believes its the original 05 car though.
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