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5 Mar 2018, 01:59 (Ref:3805811) | #51 | |
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Well this is the same mod that dictate aero parity by throwing it down a runway so...
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Could be wrong but I don't think Ospi is getting paid to keep parity between different body shapes.
Either way, this isn't F1. It's in the series best interest to keep a things as even as possible. Can't wait for the turbos vs V8 thread... |
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Correct me if I am wrong, but back when I first read Carroll Smith's bibles, he setout a process where you could calculate the centre of mass using nothing more than a set of scales and an inclinometer.
It was important to know where the COM was, because you need to know if it is above or below the line connecting the roll centres of the front and rear suspension. But maybe I don't remember so well ?. |
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When the 23 from 26 positions are seperated less than .8 of a second in qualifying, your dreaming thinking its parity.
As per usual be it Holden or Ford or Nissan, the same drivers will always be at the pointy end and the same drivers will be at the tail end no matter what car. Theres no parity to speak of just driver excellence. my 2 bobs worth |
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I think not....they are still learning and will just get better. The Fords and the Nissans are nearly fully sorted and not a lot they can do unless they play the weight distribution game to. What I really dont like is the perceived sneakiness from the sports governing body. The parity issues along with the straightout allowance of breaking track limits by certain teams smacks of impartiality. |
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There's quite a lot involved with understanding aero, how the package reacts to different rake, ride heights, yaw and roll and then how the mechanical setup can be adjusted in accordance to those new characteristics. Of all the changes that can be made to a car its one of the most significant. Their pace early is ominous.
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C4.2 Ballast 4.2.1 It is permitted to complete the weight of a Car by one or several units of ballast provided that each unit: 4.2.1.1 is a strong and unitary block; and 4.2.1.2 is fixed by means of tools; and 4.2.1.3 has the ability to affix scrutineering seals; and 4.2.1.4 must be attached to the Chassis via 8.8 class bolts; and 4.2.1.5 has a minimum diameter of 8mm for each fixing point; and 4.2.1.6 must have at least two (2) fixing points; and 4.2.1.7 must not weigh more than 10 kg; and 4.2.1.8 must be fitted within the Car’s cockpit with the exception that ballast may be added to removable components that have a specified minimum weight only to ensure compliance with the minimum weight specified of that component; and 4.2.1.9 is made of a material which has a maximum relative density of twelve (12). |
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OK they've relaxed the ballast regs a bit - I stand corrected. That's what happens when you rely on personal experience rather than ready the current rules!
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4.2.1.8 must be fitted within the Car’s cockpit with the exception that ballast may be
added to removable components that have a specified minimum weight only to ensure compliance with the minimum weight specified of that component; Simple solution, specify a minimum weight for the roof (i.e. that of a metal roof) and attach the ballast to the composite roof or roof area. |
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I cringe at the thought of lead ballast at head height personally. Easier to enforce rules on materials which can and cannot be used for the roof and bonnet.
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Yes it was a regulatory problem which has gotten us here in the first place. It's actually not that expensive to product those parts in composite anyway and a lot of places in Aus that produce molds and final products. The other teams are going to inevitably have to go there anyway now.
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