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The other elephant in the room for them is the implication of their sponsors Wilson Security in the Panama Papers.This company has been shown in these documents to be guilty of massive tax fraud and there is no doubt the ATO is coming after them.Also they have represented themselves as an Australian company gaining massive government contracts.The Panama Papers showed that their ownership is routed through a series of shell companies.The ultimate ownership of the company is in the hands of 2 Chinese national brothers based in Hong Kong where one is currently serving a long prison sentence on bribery and corruption charges.When this all works it's way through the ATO and ACCC it is hard to see the company existing let alone retaining it's government contracts.Motor racing sponsorship will be the least of their worries.
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Volvo Car Australia Expected To Continue In 2017 & Beyond...
...but wasn't allowed... and isn't allowed... So perhaps this is the source of Mr Phelps' scoop... since thwarted! |
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If precedent was anything to go by, Wilson Security were probably headed for the exit gate, don't think they have ever extended a V8SC sponsorship beyond the initial contract.
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They've also been in the sport in some ways over and above their commitments for a good 10 years or so.
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Its going to be a shame not to see those Volvos running around next year, they are two cracking looking cars.
I wonder if this effects the Nissan decision in any way? Part of me thinks it might make their exit from the category easier. I'd panic if I heard that Nissan were going to hold a press conference in the next week to talk about their future in the category... I feel sorry for the boys at GRM mainly though, it seemed that finally a team was being rewarded for all those years of doing things cheaper and cleverer than most. I'd like to say I can see some silver lining here, but... |
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I wouldn't be surprised if Volvo put Scotty in the S60 TC1 for their planned 3rd WTCC entry next year. I guess there was a reason behind the recent trip to Sweden other than his STCC ride.
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Anything to stop GRM running the V8SC engine, COTF chassis and developing their own panels and aero kit? You know, like a real touring car. |
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why are people making a big deal about the cars? Volvo/Polestar obviously have it in the contract that the cars go back to them when the contract is finished - for the same reason why they have pulled out; because they don't want their product to be continue to be used with an engine that is totally irrelevent to what they sell.
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It seems like a decade old company policy that all the hardware goes back to Sweden. Absolutly nothing wrong with that if it is in the contract. I believe DRT was bringing a little sarcasm to the debate, and your point Samwhk is exactly right! |
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GRM still hold hope for Volvo, Scotty may leave, Nissan unaffected
And James Warburton somehow believes, “That certainly shows our rebranding to Supercars is the right choice’’ |
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And Mr McKays take on proceedings, pretty fair and measured I'd have thought: Volvo departs V8 Supercars
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Except I don't regard printing comments from "sources"
May as well just make those up... If they are not on the record don't print them (unless they suit your agenda...) |
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For me this is strange. Volvo are talking about V8 engines don't match our direction but next year they can run whatever they like. They have pulled out in a very serious manner.
Personally I feel there is more to this than is being revealed. If I were running this series I'd be very very concerned right now! |
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I don't blame the management of V8 Supercars as the death of the Australian motor industry means an Australian formula has no base. And by the way Ford representation past the next few years almost certainly won't exist.Falcons would be long gone from the market place.Ford's aggression in only having GT40's in the Le Mans formula and not allowing a GT3 variant is an indication they will protect their IP and not allow some Australian series to patch together a race car based on one of their products. |
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