2012 World Rally Championship - Page 5

jsmee · 10 Jan 2012, 09:52 (Ref:3009737)

This livery is much better than I expected!

wolfhound · 10 Jan 2012, 11:51 (Ref:3009788)

The latest part of the North one saga is they are preventing the company doing the timing from doing their job at the Monte Carlo Rally.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96934

There by putting the event at risk.

tbtstt · 10 Jan 2012, 12:29 (Ref:3009800)

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Originally Posted by jsmee

This livery is much better than I expected!

That does look pretty good...

...I still prefer it all in white though!

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

The latest part of the North one saga is they are preventing the company doing the timing from doing their job at the Monte Carlo Rally.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96934

There by putting the event at risk.

For **** sake, we just want to see some rallying! The transition from North One to Eurosport is certainly looking to be a messy one, isn't it?

Clearly that earlier statement about North One being unaffected by the financial issues of their parent company was BS though, as it seems North One have outstanding debt(s) as well.

Hope they manage to find a quick resolution to this, or I think it'll be a serious blow for the WRC: just as it seems to be getting on its feet again.

**FIRE** · 10 Jan 2012, 13:55 (Ref:3009833)

What a mess

AndyS · 11 Jan 2012, 13:11 (Ref:3010215)

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Originally Posted by tbtstt

Hope they manage to find a quick resolution to this, or I think it'll be a serious blow for the WRC: just as it seems to be getting on its feet again.

I am inclined to think they will and I'd be very surprised if the Monte is cancelled. I'll be interested to see what the Eurosport coverage will be like. I'm sure the live stuff will be fine, it's whether they have any highlights shows or not that will be key for me. They do highlights of the bike racing and the god awful WTCC but I didn't notice any for the endurance events last year.

NaBUru38 · 11 Jan 2012, 15:11 (Ref:3010253)

Works Fords should be blue and white, just like Ferraris should be red. I love brand colors - Seat in yellow and red, Renault in yellow and black (actually I hate those colors, bu I like that they stick to them), Jaguar and Aston martin in British green...

kober · 12 Jan 2012, 00:53 (Ref:3010465)

Good news: Mini WRC Team have been accepted as a M1 manufacture (although they will be required to start in seven not thirteen rallies), so the homologation of the updated version of JCW should happen.

There will be quite a fleet of Fiestas in this year's campaign:
- Latvala (Ford WRT)
- P. Solberg (Ford WRT, in a role of the second driver)
- Tanak (M-Sport WRT, full season)
- Novikov (M-Sport WRT, at least eight rounds)
- Ostberg (eleven rounds)
- Wilson
- H. Solberg
- Prokop (European rounds only)
- Ketomaa (five rounds only)
- and some "relay" drivers in M-Sport's third car

Just a few of DS3s (quality > quantity):
- Loeb (Citroen WRT)
- Hirvonen (Citroen WRT)
- Al-Attiyah (works car branded as Qatar WRT)
- Neuville (Citroen Junior WRT, at least nine rounds)
- van Merksteijns (few rounds only, Sr. in MC, Jr. in SE)

And just a few of JCWs (quality?):
- Sordo (Mini WRT)
- pay drivers (Campana/Sandell*) in second works car
- Nobre (full season)
- Goransson (just few rounds)
- Araujo (just few rounds)

* Sandell has been chosen to drive for Sweden WRT

tbtstt · 12 Jan 2012, 08:55 (Ref:3010543)

Has Wilson got a drive for 2012 then? I've seen or heard nothing from his camp with regards to the forthcoming season!

**BertMk2** · 12 Jan 2012, 09:30 (Ref:3010557)

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Originally Posted by tbtstt

Has Wilson got a drive for 2012 then? I've seen or heard nothing from his camp with regards to the forthcoming season!

The Stobart deal ran out at the end of last season so unless he's found someone to replace the Stobart sponsorship I doubt Matt Wilson will be doing many events (if any). It's a shame for him but he's had his chance and obviously hasn't done enough to get the call up from a works team.

tbtstt · 12 Jan 2012, 09:40 (Ref:3010564)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

The Stobart deal ran out at the end of last season so unless he's found someone to replace the Stobart sponsorship I doubt Matt Wilson will be doing many events (if any). It's a shame for him but he's had his chance and obviously hasn't done enough to get the call up from a works team.

I thought that was the case. Extremely unpatriotic of me to say, but I can't see his deparature from the WRC being a great loss to the sport. I've long thought there were many other drivers more deserving of his seat.

**BertMk2** · 12 Jan 2012, 10:44 (Ref:3010608)

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Originally Posted by tbtstt

Extremely unpatriotic of me to say, but I can't see his deparature from the WRC being a great loss to the sport. I've long thought there were many other drivers more deserving of his seat.

Agreed. Matt got a better chance to impress than most do and he really didn't do anything to prove he deserved his place in the WRC. Plenty of better drivers didn't or don't have a drive.

**bella** · 12 Jan 2012, 11:01 (Ref:3010614)

wilson's actually on the list for the rmc entered under his own name. so basically the same as before but without stobart and the family team name?

he was rubbish in single seaters, spent most of his time facing the wrong way or in a gravel trap. at least in rallying he's got a bit of family knowledge to run with.

mountainstar · 12 Jan 2012, 15:43 (Ref:3010743)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

Agreed. Matt got a better chance to impress than most do and he really didn't do anything to prove he deserved his place in the WRC. Plenty of better drivers didn't or don't have a drive.

I always thought he was a case of pure nepotism and there was never once I ever said "WOW he's really good" or ever saw a rally where there was any "flash of brilliance".

After having 6 seasons in the WRC with a near factory car, he should have had at least one great weekend in there.

jsmee · 12 Jan 2012, 16:31 (Ref:3010775)

Citroen's 2012 livery unveiled on their FB page. Pretty unimaginative - I see no difference with 2011!

Jimmy Magnusson · 13 Jan 2012, 21:19 (Ref:3011379)

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Originally Posted by mountainstar

I always thought he was a case of pure nepotism and there was never once I ever said "WOW he's really good" or ever saw a rally where there was any "flash of brilliance".

After having 6 seasons in the WRC with a near factory car, he should have had at least one great weekend in there.

Really good, he barely ever reached mediocre. For him to put in a good drive would require breaking reality. That he can have a single person supporting him is sad in itself. It's been embarrasing seeing him hog a car in M-Sport all these years while making delusional statements about five year plans. I get Brits are starved for drivers on the world stage but that shouldn't be reason to support a no-hope who doesn't even have the personality to weigh up the lack of speed or talent.

**FIRE** · 13 Jan 2012, 22:00 (Ref:3011396)

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Originally Posted by jsmee

Citroen's 2012 livery unveiled on their FB page. Pretty unimaginative - I see no difference with 2011!

Will be interesting to see if Red Bull switches to VW in 2013.
Maybe Red Bull will do both.
Or maybe VW will have, except for suppliers like Castrol, no external sponsors.

The last option would not surprise me. On that way all attention goes to VW.

Finally a Dutch driver has a contract with a manufacturer.

kober · 13 Jan 2012, 23:14 (Ref:3011427)

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Originally Posted by jsmee

Citroen's 2012 livery unveiled on their FB page. Pretty unimaginative - I see no difference with 2011!

What about the following liveries of Tanak's Fiesta, and van Merksteijn's DS3?

In other news, Eurosport's coverage of RMC will be highlights only, no stages will be shown live. They're starting on Wednesday.

tbtstt · 14 Jan 2012, 09:50 (Ref:3011508)

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Magnusson

Really good, he barely ever reached mediocre. For him to put in a good drive would require breaking reality. That he can have a single person supporting him is sad in itself. It's been embarrasing seeing him hog a car in M-Sport all these years while making delusional statements about five year plans.

Harsh...

...but I don't disagree!

kober · 16 Jan 2012, 22:14 (Ref:3012560)

The 80th edition of Monte Carlo Rally starts on Wednesday. There will be 18 SS (a total of 433 km) spread over four days, including some night tries. Plus a Power Stage on Sunday.

There are 17 WRC cars on the official entry list: nine Fords, four Citroens and four Minis. Notably, Delecour is back in M-Sport's third car, trying to emulate his '94 win

cg7aa · 17 Jan 2012, 12:10 (Ref:3012808)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SAsp...layer_embedded

leonidas · 17 Jan 2012, 21:52 (Ref:3013072)

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Magnusson

Really good, he barely ever reached mediocre. For him to put in a good drive would require breaking reality. That he can have a single person supporting him is sad in itself. It's been embarrasing seeing him hog a car in M-Sport all these years while making delusional statements about five year plans. I get Brits are starved for drivers on the world stage but that shouldn't be reason to support a no-hope who doesn't even have the personality to weigh up the lack of speed or talent.

All this is fair enough - I've certainly criticised the guy in the past - but if someone handed you a WRC seat for six years would you have turned it down?

I actually feel a bit sorry for Wilson. He's been chasing a dream that was never really on. Hopefully he can reestablish his reputation elsewhere.

sihorton · 18 Jan 2012, 09:58 (Ref:3013301)

anybody found any websites with todays stage timing on it?

Si

**bella** · 18 Jan 2012, 10:47 (Ref:3013328)

si, there's the ffsa live timing site here: http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?i...&catCourse=ral

its loading a lot faster than the acm version which is here: http://www.rallyliveresults.com/live...type=CS&num=02

morningview66 · 18 Jan 2012, 11:27 (Ref:3013356)

Rally Monte is really suffering this year with the change back to the WRC and this whole promotor **** up.

Lack of TV/Website news.....

Is rally radio covering the event can anyone tell me?

nickyf1 · 18 Jan 2012, 13:11 (Ref:3013397)

Yes, it is.

http://www.wrc.com/fanzone/world-rally-radio/

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