help needed for Brands snatch crew

jcbsrule · 25 Apr 2004, 10:04 (Ref:950726)

Hey guys
If you need help on how to snatch with a jcb then come to Silverstone
and i will teach you how to do it the correct way
lets all work together to improve what people see on the tv
coz what i have just seen was shameful
Im a BOB Im and proud of it

peter195001 · 25 Apr 2004, 15:36 (Ref:951132)

removing of cars with "wreckers" at brands are done with D&G Recorey services we only help.

jcbsrule · 25 Apr 2004, 16:30 (Ref:951199)

wreckers is the right word for it
glad to say we use our own recovery crews

Dutch chap · 25 Apr 2004, 16:34 (Ref:951204)

I expected everyone to be so wise to ignore this post. Can we do this from now please?!

jcbsrule · 25 Apr 2004, 16:39 (Ref:951208)

I am wise as I drive jcb for snatching cars from the gravel at silverstone and if you have been watching the btcc from brands on motors tv and seen what happened to the formula bmw
you would understand what i was on about

**Tim Falce** · 25 Apr 2004, 17:45 (Ref:951261)

what happened to the F BMW?

Steve Tarrant · 25 Apr 2004, 18:01 (Ref:951268)

Gentlemen, if you look again, it wasn't the fault of the snatch vehicle - the strap the car was on broke in its centre. Both ends of the strap were still on the hook!!!!

Please get your facts right, and stop chest beating about we being better than you - we are supposed to be ALL on the same side here.

**Tim Falce** · 25 Apr 2004, 18:07 (Ref:951275)

The main thing is, was the driver OK? I assume we are talking about the early lap roll at Druids

peter195001 · 25 Apr 2004, 18:13 (Ref:951278)

steve,thats why i put my comment out as brands hatch reguler

sss · 25 Apr 2004, 19:56 (Ref:951364)

should i ever take up racing and go to silverstone - can i ask that jcbsrule gets me, as he is perfect and nothing will go wrong.?????

sss · 25 Apr 2004, 20:01 (Ref:951368)

whilst the above is a little toungue in cheek, we all make mistakes, we all have accidents and misfortunes, ropes and chains do break, if that was a regular event then that is different, but a little mean to critise so quickly.

jcbsrule · 25 Apr 2004, 21:16 (Ref:951450)

well for a start the wrong type of stroop was used
a loop stroop should have been used and make it as short as possiable
it would have also been better to remove the forks and spread the weight on the jip to get a better balance so the car will sit in the middle
a person should have steaded the car
All stroops at silverstone are renewed after 2 years
and No i have never dropped a car

sss · 25 Apr 2004, 21:26 (Ref:951460)

and never will,

Sheila M · 25 Apr 2004, 21:26 (Ref:951461)

Quote:

Originally posted by jcbsrule
and No i have never dropped a car

YET.

For heavens sake stop being so superior. So you are a Silverstone marshal. Ever been anywhere else?

jcbsrule · 25 Apr 2004, 21:27 (Ref:951463)

I was offering help

sss · 25 Apr 2004, 21:31 (Ref:951464)

it may be unfortunate that its just the way you have come across on the forum.

Dutch chap · 25 Apr 2004, 21:32 (Ref:951465)

Quote:

I expected everyone to be so wise to ignore this post. Can we do this from now please?!

As predicted. Please, don't respond, let this thread go to were it belongs. Please understand: every time you respond, you kick it up to were it should not be. Be wise, just leave it (please)!

jcbsrule · 25 Apr 2004, 21:35 (Ref:951470)

Im just trying to help the british marshal become the best again
Coz Bernie E loves kicking the british
and i think we may be the next to get a bernie bashing

Sheila M · 25 Apr 2004, 21:36 (Ref:951471)

Quote:

Originally posted by jcbsrule
I was offering help

I'm sure you were but what you have to remember is that only Silverstone and Donington are the only circuits with MSA licenses to run "snatch" vehicles. Every other circuit runs "recovery" which, as I am sure you will agree is a different kettle of fish. Recovery vehicles are instructed by race control to simply "remove that vehicle", which they do, to the best of their ability.

Having said that you still didn't answer my question - have you ever been anywhere other than Silverstone to see how other circuits operate?

alonso · 25 Apr 2004, 22:04 (Ref:951506)

I dont write many posts on here , but i find myself in total agrement with jcbrule. The problem with the snatch in question was that it was allowed to swing violantly without being steaded by anyone, this caused the strop to break or pull out. we do have a duty to be as careful as we can with expensive equipment.

**Stephen Green** · 25 Apr 2004, 22:20 (Ref:951523)

As neither jcbrules or alonso were there to see for themselves I find it sifficult to see how they can form an objective opinion. If we are to have a 'us and them' situation between Brands hatch and Silverstone then that can only be bad for all concerned. As a marshal who visits Silverstone and has many friends there I find this thread totally out of character with the regular Silverstone guys. In fact I have had two of them on post with me this weekend at Brands.

Lets all admit that accidents happen, strops break and not all in life is as perfect as one Silverstone snatch member. You would do well to know that the drivers of the snatch vehicles are in fact employees of Motorsportsvision and not D+G nor BARC or any other racing club.

A perfect time to close this rather inflammatory thread.

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