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Old 15 Jun 2017, 19:04 (Ref:3741840)   #501
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"began competing in single seaters and has enjoyed recent success in the Abarth Trophy series" according to WTCC. The Abarth series was back in 2015 but he won at Vila Real then.
He has a good success rate there but never against the highest quality (even in ETCC)
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Old 21 Jun 2017, 22:03 (Ref:3745880)   #502
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Old 24 Jun 2017, 10:56 (Ref:3746398)   #503
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Old 24 Jun 2017, 18:27 (Ref:3746478)   #504
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Remind me what the purpose of barriers is again?
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Old 24 Jun 2017, 18:48 (Ref:3746482)   #505
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Bramzel should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridBramzel should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridBramzel should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Unbelievable that this is possible in a FIA World Championship... Utterly ridiculous.
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Old 24 Jun 2017, 23:30 (Ref:3746547)   #506
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That is just something that could have been avoided. Have the FIA not learned from Bianchi's fatal crash?
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Old 25 Jun 2017, 12:03 (Ref:3746605)   #507
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...and now there are concerns over the joker lap!
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Old 25 Jun 2017, 15:46 (Ref:3746690)   #508
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What the actual hell has happened? Joker laps? Wtf is this?
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Old 25 Jun 2017, 16:05 (Ref:3746710)   #509
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It's something that's been used successfully in Rallycross and Super TC2000.
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Old 25 Jun 2017, 16:59 (Ref:3746719)   #510
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Joker laps are perfectly acceptable for an FIA 'championship' which is essentially a joke.
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Old 25 Jun 2017, 18:05 (Ref:3746744)   #511
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It's something that's been used successfully in Rallycross and Super TC2000.

I just didn't expect to see it, im so sorry. I guess I yearn for the alfa, BMW,Seat days
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Old 25 Jun 2017, 21:33 (Ref:3746823)   #512
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Huff must be kicking himself after letting race 2 get away from him.

There were more position changes than last year because of the joker lap, but it provided no excitement whatsoever. Instead of trying to actually pass each other on track, drivers were just waiting for the joker and doing it then. To me that is more boring than not seeing any overtaking at all. It takes no skill.

Whenever a series introduces a gimmick like this, they're just saying "we've failed". They've failed to put together a calendar which contains circuits where it's possible to overtake, so they introduce this. Much in the same way that F1 failed to produce a set of regulations that enables the teams to build cars which are capable of overtaking each other, so they came up with DRS. It's all rubbish.

And, my God, Michigami is shite. Have you ever seen such a poor performance from a works driver?
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 18:38 (Ref:3747066)   #513
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I just didn't expect to see it, im so sorry. I guess I yearn for the alfa, BMW,Seat days
I think all of us miss the S2000 glory days...the Mullers, Priaulx, Farfus, Tarquini etc... feels a long time since
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 18:46 (Ref:3747067)   #514
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Ahh, the sweet S2000 glory days. When we were complaining about the cars and discussing how much we missed the Supertouring glory days...
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 18:53 (Ref:3747068)   #515
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Joker laps in a touring car championship? Jesus christ that's depressing.

WRX works with jokers because the races are super short and chaotic. In WTCC, that's a complete joke. Time for some twitter fan boosts I guess.
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 19:11 (Ref:3747073)   #516
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Ahh, the sweet S2000 glory days. When we were complaining about the cars and discussing how much we missed the Supertouring glory days...
ahh, the Supertouring glory days, when we were missing the group a cars...
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Old 27 Jun 2017, 12:14 (Ref:3747271)   #517
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ahh, the Supertouring glory days, when we were missing the group a cars...
Ah, the Group A days, when we were missing etc etc

Sorry, I came over all rose-tinted just then.

Back on topic, I've tried to watch a couple of WTCC races this year after not bothering last year. They're just not... there's something missing. It doesn't *feel* like a world championship to me, tbh, but it's very difficult to articulate why.
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Old 27 Jun 2017, 15:51 (Ref:3747348)   #518
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Remind me what the purpose of barriers is again?
This is getting silly. As in dangerous.

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DTM has had them for years, they just call them pitstops.
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Old 1 Jul 2017, 21:48 (Ref:3748200)   #519
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Ahh, the sweet S2000 glory days. When we were complaining about the cars and discussing how much we missed the Supertouring glory days...
Perhaps I'm alone in thinking S2000 was more enjoyable than supertouring but meh. Regardless I think you can't deny the WTCC hasn't been anywhere near the standard it used to be a good 5+ years ago.
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Old 3 Jul 2017, 09:27 (Ref:3748586)   #520
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Guess what. Vila Real wasn't in its "licenced configuration" when Coronel crashed into a fire truck. Who'd have figured.
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Old 3 Jul 2017, 16:41 (Ref:3748645)   #521
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If that happens, of course it ain't
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Old 3 Jul 2017, 18:57 (Ref:3748673)   #522
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Was that bcause they were using the SAFER (soft and flowery emergency retardation) Barrier rather than proper Armco?
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Old 3 Jul 2017, 21:54 (Ref:3748710)   #523
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In some ways the result is a barrier had been in place may have been worse. At least the car managed to scrub off some speed, and the van absorbed some of the final impact. Imagine the result of a head-on impact with a concrete barrier some 50 ft earlier.
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If the van hadn't been there, Coronel's car would have crashed a house. It's totally unacceptable.
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Old 5 Jul 2017, 07:56 (Ref:3749034)   #525
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Aurélien Panis out, Zsolt Szabo in at Zengõ Motorsport
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