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Old 18 Oct 2016, 11:59 (Ref:3681084)   #276
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Needed a bit more than cosmetic repair from that Brands paddock hill crash....
It isn't the car that was crashed at Brands in 2013. That was Sherman Mk2. The car in the ad is Sherman Mk3.

To date there have been 3 different cars all called Sherman.
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 12:29 (Ref:3681087)   #277
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Where did Panzer end up, or is he still in Rob Austins shop?

Never knew there were 3 Shermans! Had assumed he was the same car but fixed up and updated.
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 14:02 (Ref:3681111)   #278
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My thought as well, they finally found the magic button in that car.
or maybe they got Tingram setups sheet
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 15:04 (Ref:3681123)   #279
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http://www.pirtek.co.uk/news/410/and...2017-programme

Very Very interesting could be a gamechanger
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 15:16 (Ref:3681124)   #280
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Very Very interesting could be a gamechanger
"Talks are ongoing about a programme that would be fantastic for both myself, as well as for Pirtek and my other sponsors."

Hmmm, the Alfa to be run but by another team...?
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 15:19 (Ref:3681125)   #281
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speaking of Team HARDs Volvos from unicorn land I just remembered something


does anyone know why nobody brought a Group A Volvo 240 Turbo in the BTCC during the 80s ?

it was a very competitive in 85-86 ETCC seasons and think it could have done well in BTCC up to 1987

you can see here how competittive it was
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I think mainly because the BTCC was not getting the numbers in the mid 80s and maybe Rover and BMW pulling out turned manufacturers away
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 15:20 (Ref:3681126)   #282
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differing commercial requirements would prevent an agreement being reached for the new season.
in other words Bartie asked for too much money that Pirtek was willing to give ?


Team Dynamics - Honda Civic - Matt Neal ?
Team Dynamics - Honda Civic - Gordon Shedden

Eurotech - Honda Civic - Jeff Smith ???
Eurotech - Honda Civic - ????

Speedworks - Honda Civic - Mat Simpson
Speedworks - Toyota Avensis - Tom Ingram

Handy Motorsport - Toyota Avensis - Rob Austin ???

BMR - Subaru Levorg - Jason Plato
BMR - Subaru Levorg - Colin Turkington
BMR - Subaru Levorg - Warren Scott ???
BMR - Subaru Levorg - James Cole ???????


BKR - VW Passat ???? - Aron Smith
BKR - VW Passat ???? - ????

888 - MG - Ash Sutton ??
888 - MG - ???

WSR - BMW 125 - Rob Collard ??
WSR - BMW 125 - Jack Goff ??
WSR - BMW 125 - ??????

Motorbase - Ford Focus - Mat Jackson ?
Motorbase - Ford Focus - ?????

Power Maxed - Chevrolet Cruze - ?????
Power Maxed - Chevrolet Cruze - ?????

AMD - Audi S3 - Ollie Jackson ?
AMD - Audi S3 - ?????

WIX Racing - Mercedes A-Class - Adam Morgan ??

Laser Tools - Mercedes A-Class - Aidan Moffat ?????


HARD - ?????? - Michael Epps ?????
HARD - ?????? - ?????


Welch - ??????? - Dan Welch ????

Dextra - Ford Focus - Alex Martin ?????

Maximum - Ford Focus - Stewart Lines ???

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Old 18 Oct 2016, 15:29 (Ref:3681127)   #283
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Really surprised to see Jordan and Motorbase parting company. Hope he and his Pirtek pounds find a new home - he's a good driver.
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 15:29 (Ref:3681128)   #284
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in other words Bartie asked for too much money that Pirtek was willing to give ?
I would have thought that Motorbase would have clung to that Pirtek sponsorship from AJ like a limpet, very hard to replace that I would have thought. I can't imagine Motorbase had a clashing sponsor?

I don't want to sound an old cynic but it doesn't make particularly make AJ look that good moving to another team for the 2nd year running, no continuity and beaten by Jackson in the Championship. Despite the positive spin it does have a flavour of ball taking home?
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 15:30 (Ref:3681129)   #285
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AJ in at BMR........or taking over a Honda Again?
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 15:37 (Ref:3681130)   #286
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Yeah I hope the announcement is worth the wait. I'm sure AJ is valued very highly ATM
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 15:38 (Ref:3681131)   #287
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Perhaps Motorbase has a new sponsor (or manufacturer) which requires branding across two cars. This won't fit with the Pirtek ideal...

If Alfa Romeo, for example, wants to come back one would expect they'd want their cars to be in some sort of brand colours to relaunch their BTCC campaign in style.,
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 15:42 (Ref:3681134)   #288
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 15:47 (Ref:3681135)   #289
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He needs to be on the grid, hes a fantastic driver.
if he ends up at BMR a certain driver will have even more headaches
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 16:01 (Ref:3681137)   #290
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Perhaps Motorbase has a new sponsor (or manufacturer) which requires branding across two cars. This won't fit with the Pirtek ideal...

If Alfa Romeo, for example, wants to come back one would expect they'd want their cars to be in some sort of brand colours to relaunch their BTCC campaign in style.,
I doubt Alfa would fund two or even one car fully, they only sold 5,000 cars in the UK last year. I'd love to see them on the grid and even if they did I think they would expect the team to provide the running budget - you might talk them into paying the manufacturer entry fee and some car bit and pieces, but not a full budget - all IMO of course!
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Old 18 Oct 2016, 16:06 (Ref:3681139)   #291
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if he ends up at BMR a certain driver will have even more headaches
Well i was kind of thinking that certain driver and his boss could assist putting some kind of deal for BKR to replace the Passats and i would think they may have had other options to the Subaru last year that would still be interested with AJ maybe providing a sponsor
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Where did Panzer end up, or is he still in Rob Austins shop?
Which Panzer? Shermans 1 and 2 both became Panzer.

All are still at RAR
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I doubt Alfa would fund two or even one car fully, they only sold 5,000 cars in the UK last year. I'd love to see them on the grid and even if they did I think they would expect the team to provide the running budget - you might talk them into paying the manufacturer entry fee and some car bit and pieces, but not a full budget - all IMO of course!
Subaru only old 3,500 last year!
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I doubt Alfa would fund two or even one car fully, they only sold 5,000 cars in the UK last year.!
isn't the point of such a BTCC entry too boost sales in the first place ???
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I doubt Alfa would fund two or even one car fully, they only sold 5,000 cars in the UK last year. I'd love to see them on the grid and even if they did I think they would expect the team to provide the running budget - you might talk them into paying the manufacturer entry fee and some car bit and pieces, but not a full budget - all IMO of course!
The counter argument would be that Alfa would be entering to boost sales and they would probably need to stump up the Manufacturer's entry fee, plus provide some base cars. You'd have thought that they'd want the team to be branded in a similar way to Subaru.

That's assuming that they even have an interest in doing it.

Hearing that a driver last seen on the grid in 2014 may be in talks to drive a car from a marque that wasn't represented in 2016. No clue whether this is Alfa Romeo, or anyone else, but the driver has Motorbase history.
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Is Jordan going for Dave Newsham's record of having driven for the most BTCC teams?
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Jordan hopping from team tot team.

Him in the 3rd Eurotech car is no option?
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Subaru only old 3,500 last year!
Yep, which is why they aren't fully funding the team by the look of it.
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isn't the point of such a BTCC entry too boost sales in the first place ???
Don't tell MG, they ended up dropping the MG6 for poor sales, despite the BTCC....
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