Lites / LMP3

[Bcarr6]

LMP Motorsports are importing 3 Norma LMP3s to the US for IMSA USA. Looking to sell to customers I assume

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by Bcarr6

LMP Motorsports are importing 3 Norma LMP3s to the US for IMSA USA. Looking to sell to customers I assume

I don't get it. If there is an American product why import? After all Greg Murphy was quoted as saying it was fast

[Bcarr6]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

I don't get it. If there is an American product why import? After all Greg Murphy was quoted as saying it was fast

Norma is French?

You are thinking of the Ave Riley

[FormulaFox]

Originally Posted by Bcarr6

Norma is French?

You are thinking of the Ave Riley

I think he meant why are people importing LMP3s when there's an American option in said Ave-Riley AR-2.

The answer I would give is that the delays in homologating the car may have left many prospective buyers wary of the project.

[Bcarr6]

Originally Posted by FormulaFox

I think he meant why are people importing LMP3s when there's an American option in said Ave-Riley AR-2.

The answer I would give is that the delays in homologating the car may have left many prospective buyers wary of the project.

Ah I misread

The Riley project surely hasn't filled anyone with confidence so far...

[MoMedic9019]

Originally Posted by Bcarr6

Ah I misread

The Riley project surely hasn't filled anyone with confidence so far...

Because they took their time homologating it to ensure it was the best product they can put out? There is a difference between problems, and making sure the car is a saleable product.

LMP3 isn't going anywhere for a long time, they will sell cars.

[Richard C]

I have followed this thread with curiosity and in particular the story of the Riley effort. It seems there are two predominant opinion voiced in this thread... 1. The design has issues. 2. They will homologate when they are ready. People tend to treat those as if they are in opposition of each other.

To me it's obvious that both viewpoints are likely correct. The question is to where on the scale of "deeply flawed" to "just needs some polish" does the car fit? I expect only a few know the real answer. I do feel that it's hard to argue that delays are not eroding confidence and sales opportunities. But regardless all that is needed to erase doubt is to release a good car. I hope it works out for the Ave Riley AR-2.

Richard

[FormulaFox]

Originally Posted by MoMedic9019

Because they took their time homologating it to ensure it was the best product they can put out? There is a difference between problems, and making sure the car is a saleable product.

I still don't buy that excuse. The lack of any significant interest in the Riley indicates to me all the more that people in the know have little confidence in it's ability to perform.

[fausto]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

I don't get it. If there is an American product why import? After all Greg Murphy was quoted as saying it was fast

Give Mr. Trump a little more time and US LMP3 potential customers will be left without any choice but to buy American!

[Bcarr6]

The new Norma definitely has looks on its side

Got to say I think from this angle it might be the prettiest P3

The Ligier is well proportioned but I don't love it's nose

The Adess is kinda weird looking, we all know the Riley is pretty blunt!

[joeb]

Good grid expected for Sebring Lites race:

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...ge-opener.html

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by FormulaFox

I still don't buy that excuse. The lack of any significant interest in the Riley indicates to me all the more that people in the know have little confidence in it's ability to perform.

But , Greg Murphy was quoted as saying the car was fast so what's the real story?

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

But , Greg Murphy was quoted as saying the car was fast so what's the real story?

Probably tells people he pays his bills too, but that doesn't mean it's true...

[Ospi]

Beautiful looking car, I'd hate to be the Guinea pig team to first run it though. Lack of splitter vortex is an interesting exclusion, though don't believe ginetta had them either.

[Juntos]

Originally Posted by peebee2

Probably tells people he pays his bills too, but that doesn't mean it's true...

Do you mean he never pay for the car? Or do you mean he didn't pay for the laps he did with the car? Every journey is fraught with twists and turns.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by Ospi

Beautiful looking car, I'd hate to be the Guinea pig team to first run it though. Lack of splitter vortex is an interesting exclusion, though don't believe ginetta had them either.

beauty is in the eye of the beholder
To me it looks like an early DP car strange that everyone else has gone high nose, time will tell

[Coach Ep]

Originally Posted by joeb

Good grid expected for Sebring Lites race:

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...ge-opener.html

Unprecedented number of constructors being represented!

2 Rileys expected + the new Norma (might we see 'test driver' Romain Dumas behind the wheel?). Also a Ginetta and an Adess. Mix in the old Lites cars and it'll be a great variety. Looking forward to see the bunch.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Unprecedented number of constructors being represented!

2 Rileys expected + the new Norma (might we see 'test driver' Romain Dumas behind the wheel?). Also a Ginetta and an Adess. Mix in the old Lites cars and it'll be a great variety. Looking forward to see the bunch.

I like the variety too, I just hope everyone puts on a good show so that the series can grow and we can continue to see the diversity on the grid.

[Coach Ep]

provisional entry list for Sebring:

http://competitors.imsa.com/sites/de...entry_list.pdf

disappointing in the numbers. And I suspect Doug Peterson's entry might be a(other) Riley instead of the Ligier listed.

Hope we'll see a couple more entries emerging over the next two weeks.

[fieldodreams79]

I'd like to see more, but 10 LMP3s and 19 for a total in a support series is a good start. I'm looking forward to see them in person.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

provisional entry list for Sebring:

http://competitors.imsa.com/sites/de...entry_list.pdf

disappointing in the numbers. And I suspect Doug Peterson's entry might be a(other) Riley instead of the Ligier listed.

Hope we'll see a couple more entries emerging over the next two weeks.

That's just a test entry list, I presume you'll see a few more by raceday.

[MoMedic9019]

Originally Posted by Matt

That's just a test entry list, I presume you'll see a few more by raceday.

I tell you what. LMP3 will never work, and they should have not done it.

[Coach Ep]

Originally Posted by Matt

That's just a test entry list, I presume you'll see a few more by raceday.

That's right, I didn't realize that at first! Thx for pointing out the obvious.

[Lanky Turtle]

I always try to catch the Prototype Lights races at Sebring, but if I don't, no big deal. But this year they are can't miss races and kudos to IMSA for not waiting too long on bringing P3 cars to the U.S.

[fieldodreams79]

Originally Posted by Lanky Turtle

I always try to catch the Prototype Lights races at Sebring, but if I don't, no big deal. But this year they are can't miss races and kudos to IMSA for not waiting too long on bringing P3 cars to the U.S.

I was over Lites, especially at 8 AM. Too much Mazda and not enough "zoom".