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Old 17 Feb 2004, 16:56 (Ref:877185)   #26
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Can somebody please post a pic of a Ferrari with the TRUST logo on it ?


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Old 17 Feb 2004, 17:36 (Ref:877235)   #27
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I don't think Ferrari ask drivers to bring a sponsorship package - he could go there without taking Trust!
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Old 17 Feb 2004, 20:31 (Ref:877509)   #28
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Huub Rothengatter says the stories told by Trust and Jordan aren't at all true and he's thinking about legal action.
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 08:22 (Ref:878021)   #29
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With all respect, I don't mind if Rothengatter goes to court, as long as Jos Jos has the guts to sack him. With Rothengatter at the the helm, Verstappens chances are virtually nill to get back in formula-1 after what Jordan has said about the guy.

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Old 18 Feb 2004, 12:21 (Ref:878210)   #30
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Okay guys, a little fun that's all.

To tell the truth, I think F1 days for Jos are over. With all young talented drivers coming around, and a clearly trend to hire young and unexperienced (in F1) drivers for racing, Jos has very little chance to come back.
In the coming season, we see that only a "veteran" like Nick Heidfeld, a youngster after all, has secured the seat. All others old guys are proved talented and still has potential to achieve someting in F1. Even the old DC.
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 16:20 (Ref:878424)   #31
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Huub has kept Jos in F1 for 108 GP's, now Peridon tried to do the negotiations and it went wrong, a Dutch magazine(racereport) says that there was a verbal agreement over the driver contract but the problems where with the sponsorcontract, They also say that during a crucial part of negotiations Peridon was away for 3 days ice racing in Sweden and left the negotiations to a friend of his(who had never seen a F1 race)

they think Peridon was just in it for the free publicity and had no real intention to get Jos in a Jordan.
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 19:24 (Ref:878600)   #32
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Huub has kept Jos in F1 for 108 GP's, now Peridon tried to do the negotiations and it went wrong, a Dutch magazine(racereport) says that there was a verbal agreement over the driver contract but the problems where with the sponsorcontract, They also say that during a crucial part of negotiations Peridon was away for 3 days ice racing in Sweden and left the negotiations to a friend of his(who had never seen a F1 race)

they think Peridon was just in it for the free publicity and had no real intention to get Jos in a Jordan.
Well, Perridon certainy got his publicity during this soap-opera if thats the only thing he was aiming for, i mean the name "Trust" must have been mentioned a million times on all the f-1 newssites and in the papers.
But why would Jordan so explicitly name Rothengatter as the guilty guy, if that weren't very close to the truth ? I dont think that Perridon would be so dumb to sponsor a Jordan if he knew that there wouldn't be a Dutch driver in it. So i'm inclining to go along with the opinion that the management of Jos messed up. Such a shame

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Old 18 Feb 2004, 20:00 (Ref:878644)   #33
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Well Jordan have taken the Trust logo's off the car for the current test but I certainly believe EJ is doing all he can to secure Trust as sponsors this season.

I suppose they still have a place as a test driver. Although I don't know how much of a 'real' position that would be. They obviously won't be doing that much testing this year. Although there is the third driver for Friday's to think about.
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 20:02 (Ref:878646)   #34
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Has no-one read johnw's post on the first page of this thread? Let's hope history does not repeat itself.
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 21:35 (Ref:878708)   #35
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Well Jordan have taken the Trust logo's off the car for the current test but I certainly believe EJ is doing all he can to secure Trust as sponsors this season.

Indeed, I think that is the case.
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 22:11 (Ref:878733)   #36
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OK, enough is enough. Jos will not be at Jordan F1 driver, in fact he will not be in F1 for any team. Let’s accept this, get on with our lives and enjoy F1 as it is ( as far as you can enjoy F1).
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... a Dutch magazine(racereport) says that there was a verbal agreement over the driver contract ...
They also say that during a crucial part of negotiations Peridon was away for 3 days ice racing in Sweden and left the negotiations to a friend of his(who had never seen a F1 race) ...
The same magazine tells us that under British jurisdiction, a verbal agreement is *not* binding.

And according to the magazine, the three days that Peridon was away are the three days *after* Trust broke with Verstappen's management (So it didn't affect the negotiations).

And the magazine mentions that last sunday was the magazine's deadline. So they didn't know yet what Jordan and Trust would tell us on monday about this situation ...
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Verstappen not being on the grid is probably the best news of 2004 so far.
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 21:19 (Ref:879787)   #39
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The same magazine tells us that under British jurisdiction, a verbal agreement is *not* binding.

And according to the magazine, the three days that Peridon was away are the three days *after* Trust broke with Verstappen's management (So it didn't affect the negotiations).

And the magazine mentions that last sunday was the magazine's deadline. So they didn't know yet what Jordan and Trust would tell us on monday about this situation ...
Trust already had already told their story on saturday(in a Dutch newspaper), and you are wrong about the "ice racing" incident , Trust broke with Jos's managment last friday, not before that, Jos was still in the picture at Jordan at the time Peridon pulled that stunt.
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 21:26 (Ref:879802)   #40
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Look guys, Jos is gone, forget him, he's in the past! Look towards the future.....surely there's someone else to cheer on?

Is Jos the be all and end all? Stop talking about him!

And the name "Trust" is getting to a similarly tiresome level!

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Please just accept it's over and quit flogging this dead horse!
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