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Old 18 Jan 2018, 22:29 (Ref:3793663)   #226
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Grant, that's last year's sale.
Ah! Good point!

Odd then that have not had any results posted on the web site for a year? That caught me out.

A whole year with no published results though .... why would that be?
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Old 18 Jan 2018, 23:01 (Ref:3793671)   #227
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Dear Bob in this Historic world they are not called replica cars . The correct name is a recreation . Got it !!!!
Recently it seems to have moved on again Iain.

I see "evocation" appearing more and more often.

http://www.coys.co.uk/cars/1964-jagu...er-evocation-2
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Old 18 Jan 2018, 23:06 (Ref:3793674)   #228
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Here in Luton the rumour is that there will be a run of replica Viva GT's in 2018.

I'll keep you posted.
There may be replica's, but there is only one original...
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Old 19 Jan 2018, 06:05 (Ref:3793728)   #229
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Ah! Good point!
Grant the sale I was referring to is named Autosport 2018 and the first list starts with a '66 Stang. I think its the good one and if I'm right would you please post the link?
Recreation, evocation, perfect copy, clone whatever you call them another category makes money they are ex road going cars then adapted to race ten, twenty or more years ago. Semi authentic or just really fun to drive?
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Dear Bob in this Historic world they are not called replica cars . The correct name is a recreation . Got it !!!!
Thank you Iain, I still can't get out of the fifties, I'm afraid.
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Old 19 Jan 2018, 08:06 (Ref:3793743)   #231
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Recently it seems to have moved on again Iain.

I see "evocation" appearing more and more often.

http://www.coys.co.uk/cars/1964-jagu...er-evocation-2
Crikey! It gets worse.
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Old 19 Jan 2018, 08:25 (Ref:3793747)   #232
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Crikey! It gets worse.
When does something stop being a 'Continuation' and become an 'Evocation'?


Or should that be the other way round...?
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Old 19 Jan 2018, 08:27 (Ref:3793748)   #233
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Thank you Iain, I still can't get out of the fifties, I'm afraid.

So much simpler when everything was black & white, wasn't it?
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Old 19 Jan 2018, 08:30 (Ref:3793749)   #234
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That evocation. Elsewhere it would be called a kit car.

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When does something stop being a 'Continuation' and become an 'Evocation'?
Dear John Ã* chacun son interprétationin this matter. I guess Continuation should be built by the former builder or by anyone who bought the rights to build identical cars.
Evocation could be a partial Replica. And a Replica should match the genuine car in every respect.
Trouble comes with some genuine cars refurbished by specialists then they could be called "as new" but slightly adapted… Bearing in mind that some "parts" are impossible to reproduce like the special Capri light body shells made by Ford back in the day.
Anyway, everywhere big money can be made they will find out the right way and right name. We call them Specialists…
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That evocation. Elsewhere it would be called a kit car.
Whate is wrong with calling them fakes.
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Dear John Ã* chacun son interprétationin this matter. I guess Continuation should be built by the former builder or by anyone who bought the rights to build identical cars.
Evocation could be a partial Replica. And a Replica should match the genuine car in every respect.
Trouble comes with some genuine cars refurbished by specialists then they could be called "as new" but slightly adapted… Bearing in mind that some "parts" are impossible to reproduce like the special Capri light body shells made by Ford back in the day.
Anyway, everywhere big money can be made they will find out the right way and right name. We call them Specialists…
Thank you, Gerard. At the end of the day, it is whatever you want it to be.
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Old 19 Jan 2018, 09:11 (Ref:3793759)   #238
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That's far too direct, plus the word is too small, it doesn't sound posh enough...
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Also not accurate unless someone is trying to pass them off as originals.
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Grant the sale I was referring to is named Autosport 2018 and the first list starts with a '66 Stang. I think its the good one and if I'm right would you please post the link?
Recreation, evocation, perfect copy, clone whatever you call them another category makes money they are ex road going cars then adapted to race ten, twenty or more years ago. Semi authentic or just really fun to drive?
Gerard,

The sals catalogue still exists. Oddly it opened the catalogue for the Autosport 2018 auction when I clicked on a link for the "next auction" which claimed to be an event in February.

I think the Coys web site may need a little fettling.

http://www.coys.co.uk/autosport-2018

It seems that is still the case.

The Mustang entry is extremely light on information specific to the car being offered.

It seems to be something for the "London Motor Museum".

Googling that produces a set of interesting images.
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Thanks for that Grant! Have a look to the 635 description and the F40 too, seem to be road going cars later converted. I love reading auction catalogues, some do know how to write several pages of belonies and other garbage about a semi wreck. I have some names but please dont ask…

Does anyone knows for sure if PA has been recently sold to the ACO (partly)? Or another hoax and silly rumor…
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The 635 is actually a very well put together car. It is described as what it is, a replica. Built using works parts or copies where the parts are no longer available. It has an HTP which, although not a guarantee, does signify that the builder is genuine.
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If there are any Daily Telegraph readers on here could I crave a favour re today's (19th) paper please. Apparently there is an article - or on the letter's page I'm told (?) - about the best colour for not showing dirt on a car??? I understand the paper used one of my agency stock photos (quite legit) but we sometimes need proof of publication if the papers don't pay up - which takes months!!!

So a scan of said article / photo would be appreciated if anyone has one to hand please? I've only just found out and can't get out to buy a copy this evening. Thanks!

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Sorry Gary, don't read any nationals. What about online? (No idea if you get full paper in digi version.)

Another request for help- Anyone got the secret code to get a free ticket for HMI? I received 3 identical emails offering said freebie from a well known organiser yesterday and a link to the booking site, which of course needs a 'discount code'. But no code in the emails.

And no, it's not a scam email.......

If anyone has got the code, please pm. Mind you, I expect there will be more offers as the date gets closer!
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Thanks Mike.

Currently down at Bruntingthorpe for the VSCC Measham Rally - scrutineering bay is one of the more interesting venues.
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Thanks Mike.

Currently down at Bruntingthorpe for the VSCC Measham Rally - scrutineering bay is one of the more interesting venues.
Crikey, that time of year again already?

Seems like only a short while ago you were there for the previous one.

-1G around here so I assume similar with you. A challenging night for the crews perhaps.
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The last car has just set off. First one was at 10pm and they were scrapping the frost off then. I must be mad. They’re madder!
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I saw a TV ad for ‘Build your own Routemaster’, which is one of those weekly subscription things where you get a few parts sent each week. The model is an impressive 1/12 scale, but at £8.99 per week (first issue £1.99) how much is the total cost likely to be? Surprisingly, the website makes no mention......
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I saw a TV ad for ‘Build your own Routemaster’, which is one of those weekly subscription things where you get a few parts sent each week. The model is an impressive 1/12 scale, but at £8.99 per week (first issue £1.99) how much is the total cost likely to be? Surprisingly, the website makes no mention......
It doesn't do to add up the total cost of those things.

We had a long-running part-work here to build a model Citroen garage. It was very nice but went on forever. Somebody did actually list a completed one that he had built-up, on eBay. The asking price was somewhere over 800 euros, which he pointed out was the sum total of the parts, no labour charges!

You can buy very nice hand-made model garages for an awful lot less than that.
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