[BTCC] rounds 22,23 & 24 Rockingham

[skells22]

time for the 31 cars to hit Rockingham. 1st question is where will Plato start and will we find out tommorow

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

The back of the grid otherwise something has gone seriously wrong...

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

The back of the grid otherwise something has gone seriously wrong...

it looks like total TOCA bias

no penalty for Plato cos of course how dare they ruin the title chances for their boy while Turks was slapped immedialty for the far less charge on Neal

[BtccLee]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

it looks like total TOCA bias

no penalty for Plato cos of course how dare they ruin the title chances for their boy while Turks was slapped immedialty for the far less charge on Neal

Asked about this, depends if both parties are at circuit. Not obligatory till Saturday. It will come

[BillWiskins]

Let's all remain calm, look forward to the races, and remember that:

A) The people handing out penalties have access to far more information than we do (on-boards, telemetry etc.), and

B) The people handing out penalties are not Plato cronies, in on the vast conspiracy to prevent anyone else from winning! If he gets penalised (which in my opinion he probably should, for the lunge on Mr Austin) then he will be sent to the back. If he doesn't... then he won't!

I'm looking forward to this, and there are lots of (not necessarily front-running) teams expecting to do quite well here too. Weather looks a bit iffy for tomorrow, less so for Sunday.

[CaptRustyNail]

He has been granted a third strike which has been appealed, will find out for sure before quali

[skells22]

Plato has got his 3 strike which means he has to start 31st but his team are apeealing

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Lol his team are appealing #farcical

[tux]

They have the right to appeal, just like in football when a player is sent off, the team has the option to appeal, doesn't mean it will get over turned? Just relax.

[BtccLee]

Overturned... by the MSA Stewards... Not Alan Gow, not TOCA, the MSA. The unbiased MSA.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by BtccLee

Overturned... by the MSA Stewards... Not Alan Gow, not TOCA, the MSA. The unbiased MSA.

so let's get this straight

Turks get 8 places grid drop for hitting Neal which cost him some places and here Plato ONLY gets a REPRIMAND for launching a moronic dive on Austin which causes him a DNF and severe car damage and now even that isn't enough ????


and any one seriously wants to tel me the stewards and everyone else is UNBIASED ????

[CaptRustyNail]

Convenient that Plato has been doing well in practice here as well...

[S griffin]

It's obvious that they want to keep Plato in the title fight, even though his attitude means he doesn't deserve to be in the title fight. It seems the new penalty system for this year only applies to those who don't matter. How can people take the officials seriously. Cowards

[BtccLee]

I genuinely am not going to bother commenting as it appears all logic has gone completely out of the window when it comes to Jason Plato and forums...

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by BtccLee

I genuinely am not going to bother commenting as it appears all logic has gone completely out of the window when it comes to Jason Plato and forums...

explain how launching like a lose torpedo and ramming another driver despite being noway near for such a dive is not worth not even a REPRIMAND??


you want to tell us that most of us viewers can't see and judge themselves and have to be spoon feed the results from some higher authoroty ?

[BtccLee]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

explain how launching like a lose torpedo and ramming another driver despite being noway near for such a dive is not worth not even a REPRIMAND??


you want to tell us that most of us viewers can't see and judge themselves and have to be spoon feed the results from some higher authoroty ?

Okay I will bite. Why bother penalising him in the first place? Could have avoided the appeal, have done with it? Austin never protested Plato. Another thing there. Marginal yes.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115732

That's it for me

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by BtccLee

Okay I will bite. Why bother penalising him in the first place? Could have avoided the appeal, have done with it? Austin never protested Plato. Another thing there. Marginal yes.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115732

That's it for me

hypocrisy


Turks didn't hit Neal deliberatly either yet they slapped him with grid drop

"I saw the onboard footage and I could tell it wasn't deliberate," he said

BTW Turks will start ahead of Plato , what are the odds that Plato will ram him off the track again ?

in the long run this may cost Plato even more , cos he has a really fast car here on a track which can pass and he would had 0 strikes afterwards

now if gets 1 more strike start from back which means title over specially on Brands where you can't pass that easy

[BillWiskins]

Originally Posted by BtccLee

I genuinely am not going to bother commenting as it appears all logic has gone completely out of the window when it comes to Jason Plato and forums...

.

[rdjones]

A verbal warning, sorry I don't get it.

So my local man Tordoff takes pole, but Turks is 2nd with Plato just behind, the hairpin of the oval will be interesting in race 1.

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Anyone else believe that the evidence submitted by 888 on appeal was...


...the championship standings???!!!

I guess I'll be watching the F1 then, less ad breaks anyway

[psq43]

Anyone know who the top man of the MSA is?

[S griffin]

But again Colin puts his car ahead of Plato on the grid despite maximum ballest. I think that says it all!

[psq43]

Originally Posted by S griffin

But again Colin puts his car ahead of Plato on the grid despite maximum ballest. I think that says it all!

Yes. That two class drivers made best use of what they had at the correct time.

[BtccLee]

Alan Gow everybody...

"Ah, the good old conspiracy theory.

It's utter nonsense and I can only imagine that any person who accuses the BTCC/TOCA of bias is almost totally ignorant of the judicial process;

If a driver or team receives a penalty from the BTCC Clerk of Course and feels that the penalty is unfair, they have every right to lodge an appeal to the MSA Stewards. These MSA Stewards work totally independently of the BTCC and are not even the same Stewards at each event - they are appointed by the MSA from a pool of suitably qualified Stewards.

When the Stewards hold an appeal-hearing the BTCC Clerk of Course (or any BTCC officials or TOCA personnel) play no role in it and do not even attend the appeal hearing. Only the drivers involved, and their team managers, attend. Thus if the MSA Stewards decide to reject or uphold the appeal, that is a decision made entirely by them and without any input whatsoever from the BTCC officials.

So, for the 'biased' conspiracy theory to work, the BTCC Clerk of Course would give a penalty to the driver fully knowing that the driver would then appeal the decision and that the MSA Stewards were in on the conspiracy and thus overturn that decision - therefore ending up with the driver receiving no penalty when in fact he was originally given one by the BTCC officials!

Clearly, it's utter nonsense - but more than that, it is actually offensive towards the senior Officials and Stewards who take those decisions and devote their (unpaid) time and energies to our sport."

Now let's go racing...

[porsche962fan]

like he would really say "yes we are kinda biased towards Plato because large part of audience is crazy about him and we want him to still be in championship hunt"


really they ask people questions where there can be only one answer


it's like asking a man if he cheated his wife or a politician if he is corrupt and gets paid off to represent some interests

regardless if true or not the answer will always be NO

fact this this looks way too convenient

Accident with Turks , just "race accident", accident with Austin again just "unintentional" race accdient, unintentional nudge from Turks on Neal, BAM 8 grid penalty