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Old 18 May 2017, 07:32 (Ref:3734175)   #391
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Should be cued up here...lap 10/11 of Race 2, going down towards Parabolica.

https://youtu.be/VyG4f_SGunA?t=1987
Thanks for that. That's clearly not blocking at all. The car behind has a good car length of two, and in a touring car that's no where near close enough to make the pass.

Can see when he gets to the main straight he stops trying to break the tow because the Honda is much closer, and at that point it would be blocking. Some clever driving sticking to the right all the way down the main straight to keep the inside blocked off. By doing that he was able to make his one move back to the left of the circuit. That was pretty clever driving from Comini.

Not so much from that VW. Tried to go around the outside into the chicane and just aborted over the grass. That was a bit poor.
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Old 18 May 2017, 20:54 (Ref:3734341)   #392
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No series bans trying to break the tow. It was happening during the Monza ELMS race too. Blocking and breaking the tow are 2 different things.

Do you have a link to a video of it?
Matt linked it earlier.

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Look the old WTCC Races in Monza - they did the same thing - it's not blocking! Learn a bit about breaking the tow befor you're trolling.

Trolling? Because you don't like it? I don't remember this kind of racingfrom old WTCC races, but if you are, pls. give a link to a video.

This is the 2012 race, no such thing from the leading car I noticed.

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Should be cued up here...lap 10/11 of Race 2, going down towards Parabolica.

https://youtu.be/VyG4f_SGunA?t=1987

Thank you, that is what I thinking, and I stille think the same. what I wrote earlier?
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Old 18 May 2017, 22:10 (Ref:3734349)   #393
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Old = early years from WTCC = 2005 - 2007...
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Old 19 May 2017, 19:47 (Ref:3734521)   #394
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Old = early years from WTCC = 2005 - 2007...
1 - still no links

2 - that was a decadeago. Different times, different standars.
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Old 19 May 2017, 20:03 (Ref:3734524)   #395
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Fairly certain touring car driving standards haven't changed in over 30 years.

Weaving to break a tow is allowed in every series without repercussions. It's when you weave to block, or reacting to a move from a car behind you, that isn't.
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Old 22 May 2017, 19:03 (Ref:3735315)   #396
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Fairly certain touring car driving standards haven't changed in over 30 years.

Weaving to break a tow is allowed in every series without repercussions. It's when you weave to block, or reacting to a move from a car behind you, that isn't.
I think we following very different series with very different driving standards, because I didn' remember anything like that.
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Old 25 May 2017, 08:55 (Ref:3735838)   #397
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I think we following very different series with very different driving standards, because I didn' remember anything like that.


It is allowable in DTM, WTCC, BTCC... touring cars....

I think maybe the thing is you don't often see touring cars run on such long straights as you have in monza, so you don't often see such aggressive weaving.

So when you see a race at monza it seems more pronounced.

Doesn't mean it's bad, it's just a symptom of a track with longer wider straights.

Moving to break a tow can be seen commonplace in races pretty much every weekend, as Matt said it's doing it when a move is being made that's a problem
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Old 25 May 2017, 14:00 (Ref:3735937)   #398
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I'm honestly amazed that this argument even began, yet alone has continued for so long.

What happened to discussion in this forum?
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Old 25 May 2017, 19:43 (Ref:3735990)   #401
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Old 26 May 2017, 17:43 (Ref:3736200)   #405
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The race in Budapest now together with the DTM - Norbert Michelisz will likely do a gueststart.
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