DMN 2007 - rules, regs, drivers, cars. (Formerly DTRC) - Page 3

jonhill · 10 Dec 2006, 17:24 (Ref:1786919)

Right...

Thinking of giving the DTRC a go in 2007. I was doing some castle combe saloons, but only managed a few races in 2006 and am getting tired of the £100k 500bhp cars at the front

So, Pug 205 taken out to 1750cc on throttle bodies (so cant do tin tops

); which class will I be in and what will the competition look like?

jon

Suze · 10 Dec 2006, 18:24 (Ref:1786962)

Didn't see any DTRC guys at the show today and no-one was on the stand when I wondered to see but think everyone was looking at the other shiny cars in the same area

Depending how it worked for BARC SE, may not do toom bad to have a separate DTRC stand next year - know of a couple of people who have done very well from the event.

Rod Birley · 10 Dec 2006, 18:27 (Ref:1786969)

If its 8 valve class D, 16 valve will be class C, assuming its steel bodied etc.

jonhill · 10 Dec 2006, 18:36 (Ref:1786976)

cheers Rod

8v (on of the problems with castle combe - my 8v is in the same class at 240bhp 16v's...

)

I await regs, dates, registration forms, etc with baited breath

jon

chezza · 10 Dec 2006, 20:13 (Ref:1787040)

The behind this weekend was to promote the tin-tops not DTRC mainly because thats a new series and DTRC actually does a very good job promoting itself.

I'm sure there were people there, but unfortunately one of our new guys doesn't have his club shirt yet and so may have been being stealth. Also Bill the owner of the Mini would have been there, he did a great job this weekend.

Yes I know some people who did very well too and we had a great deal of interest in the tin-tops and also DTRC.

AndyP...thank you very much for my choccies, I've only sampled a couple but they're very tasty!

graham bahr · 10 Dec 2006, 20:16 (Ref:1787045)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonhill

Right...

So, Pug 205 taken out to 1750cc on throttle bodies (so cant do tin tops

); which class will I be in and what will the competition look like?

jon

you do you say that? unless your going to say something like its got the engine in the boot or something then it could run in either DTRC or tin tops

phansa88 · 10 Dec 2006, 21:26 (Ref:1787108)

aah yes will be out to play in fiesta colour to change new engine and gearbox,
new wheel arch at the rear due to rust am at present losing some weight off the car. but have mini shell and engine undersand its over 1300cc might do this later in the year or my road going 1.9 205 gti as a back up car to see if its better than the fiesta. Hope to keep same number as last year if this ok
will do tin top to start then dtr. Not to sure of the colour scheme yet

graham bahr · 10 Dec 2006, 22:10 (Ref:1787158)

Quote:

Originally Posted by falcemob

Maybe jonhill means the proper tin top series (CSCC). I think you need to rename or add something to your tintops so we don't all get confused.

maybe, but as this thread is about DTRC which is run by BARC se, it would seem logical that references to tin tops would also apply to DTRC,

maybe a radical answer is in order, like rather than changing the name of our series, just call CSCC by its name CSCC

**Tim Falce** · 10 Dec 2006, 22:17 (Ref:1787167)

Quote:

Originally Posted by graham bahr

maybe, but as this thread is about DTRC which is run by BARC se, it would seem logical that references to tin tops would also apply to DTRC,

But your Tin Tops has nothing to do with the DTRC and Jonhill was referring originally to the CSCC Tin Tops not the BARCse TinTops even though he wants to join the BARCse Tin Tops........I think

BTW, the CSCC is a club not a series.

barry barnes · 11 Dec 2006, 01:53 (Ref:1787330)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suze

Fair enough re the tin tops and promoting. If you can do it for 5k as per the sign on the mini, not bad at all. And always good to have a car on the stand as well so was good to see that!

5K for a Mini, makes my Toyota a bargain for who ever buys it at 8K complete with spares - because its so reliable running cost are minimal and it still wins even with this silly old fool behind the wheel.

**BertMk2** · 11 Dec 2006, 09:58 (Ref:1787737)

Quote:

Originally Posted by barry barnes

5K for a Mini, makes my Toyota a bargain for who ever buys it at 8K complete with spares - because its so reliable running cost are minimal and it still wins even with this silly old fool behind the wheel.

The £5K was a representitive cost for the first year of competing - not the cost of buying the Mini

That £5K includes buying a car, getting a licence, entry fees and running costs.

That said, £8K seem like a very reasonable price for the Toyota.

Jamie G · 11 Dec 2006, 10:22 (Ref:1787756)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BertMk2

The £5K was a representitive cost for the first year of competing - not the cost of buying the Mini

That £5K includes buying a car, getting a licence, entry fees and running costs.

That said, £8K seem like a very reasonable price for the Toyota.

I think it's possible to do it for a lot less than that - I certainly did - but I suppose the cost is representative of what level you are aiming at and where you want to come in the finishing order. There seem to be lots of cheap ex-one make series cars about for about 2.5k nowadays.

Jamie G · 11 Dec 2006, 10:30 (Ref:1787764)

Without meaning to sound in the least bit impatient....

WHEN CAN I ENTER?????

chezza · 11 Dec 2006, 10:54 (Ref:1787793)

Not yet!

I'd have thought january will be when all the paper work comes out

Rod Birley · 11 Dec 2006, 11:09 (Ref:1787814)

Registrations will be out soon, a provisional list of dates are on my website.

**BertMk2** · 11 Dec 2006, 11:29 (Ref:1787841)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod Birley

Registrations will be out soon, a provisional list of dates are on my website.

Rod - TRC and Tin tops are showing a date of 6th of April at Lydden - that's a Friday according to Microsoft Outlook (so that could be wrong

).

Tim Wilkinson · 11 Dec 2006, 11:52 (Ref:1787858)

Good friday

**BertMk2** · 11 Dec 2006, 12:03 (Ref:1787871)

Aaaah. That explains it then

grichie87 · 11 Dec 2006, 12:08 (Ref:1787881)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonhill

cheers Rod

8v (on of the problems with castle combe - my 8v is in the same class at 240bhp 16v's...

)

I await regs, dates, registration forms, etc with baited breath

jon

Looks like Class D = up to 1.6 ltr 16 valve or up to 2.0ltr 8 valve, Look at Rods site at the results to see the runners and riders
Borris

grichie87 · 11 Dec 2006, 12:12 (Ref:1787885)

Quote:

Originally Posted by grichie87

Looks like Class D = up to 1.6 ltr 16 valve or up to 2.0ltr 8 valve, Look at Rods site at the results to see the runners and riders
Borris

Also last years Regs are on Rods site they will only change a bit in 2007
Borris

Tim Wilkinson · 11 Dec 2006, 12:28 (Ref:1787904)

Will the BARCSE Tintops races be the same price and track time as the DTRC races, when they're on the same weekend?

I'll (finally) be bringing my Astra out in Class C and/or BARCSE Tintops as long as moving house and having the car prepared don't skint me irrecoverably. Ash Hargreaves will most likely be back as well, in the 205; although he's pondering different power units, it'll still be Class C.

I'm looking forward to the Combe weekend, very glad we're going back there. I like the "Tintop Challenge" idea too.

chezza · 11 Dec 2006, 12:37 (Ref:1787913)

Yes they will be same price/time.

Also if you fancy entering both DTRC and the BARCSE tintops at one meeting you will get a discount on the second entry.

jonhill · 12 Dec 2006, 09:50 (Ref:1788771)

right, now im confused...

there's the DTRC championship, which is the subject of this thread; then there's the "tin top" series which has something to do with mini's i think; is there another "tin top" series as well?

(im interested in saloon championships in the south east that will let me run my 205 with throttle bodies

)

cheers

jon

Suze · 12 Dec 2006, 10:02 (Ref:1788782)

There's three which are being discussed here really:

DTRC
BARC SE Tin tops (or whatever it may be called / become!)
Tin Tops run by CSCC

Rod Birley · 12 Dec 2006, 10:20 (Ref:1788796)

Jon, you are better off doing the DT&R championship. Your car complies with class D and there is even a round at Castle Combe.

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