8 Different Winners!

JustinDawkins · 26 Aug 2003, 14:15 (Ref:699481)

There have been 8 different winners this season, I can't remember having that many winners in one year before, is it a record?

**Adam43** · 26 Aug 2003, 14:16 (Ref:699485)

1982 holds most records of this nature.

JustinDawkins · 26 Aug 2003, 14:18 (Ref:699487)

I think your right, how many winners someone?

Knowlesy · 26 Aug 2003, 15:58 (Ref:699624)

12 I think?

**Adam43** · 26 Aug 2003, 16:35 (Ref:699683)

I gave a quick answer, to at least point people in the right direction for their own research. However, now I am back at home and have more time.

Prost (2), Lauda (2), Pironi (2), Watson (2), Patrese, Piquet, Arnoux (2), Tambay, de Angelis, Rosberg (World Champion) and Alboreto all won GP. That's 11 drivers folks. It could be equalled this year still!

Gore · 26 Aug 2003, 18:51 (Ref:699812)

Anyone fancy working out the ratio of different victors to competitors for the past 53 seasons (ie. number of victors / sum of race entries over the season)? I think if you took total number of entrants rather than qualifiers there's a good chance this year would come out on top given the relatively few drivers.

paulzinho · 26 Aug 2003, 18:56 (Ref:699821)

Perhaps but remember in the past there were far fewer events than today, I think the first season only had something like 6 races.

Gore · 26 Aug 2003, 19:14 (Ref:699867)

That's a good point. '82 might also beat 2003 under this system because I may have been overestimating the number of entries (pre-qualifying only began c.1987 didn't it?)--I've also just realised that the '82 San Marino GP only had about 8 entries due to the FOCA/FISA bunfight.

Note to self: in future think, then post...

x_dt · 26 Aug 2003, 19:51 (Ref:699937)

Worth noting that the last year in which 8 or more different drivers won races was 1985 which also had 8 winners; Prost (5), Alboreto/Senna/Mansell/Rosberg (2 each), Piquet/Lauda/de Angelis (1 each though Elio gained his win after Prost was disqualified from the Imola race).

Other years with 8 or more winners:

1975 - 9 winners: Lauda (5), Emmo (2), Pace/Scheckter/Mass/Hunt/Reutemann/Brambilla/Regazzoni (1 each)

1977 - 8 winners: Mario (4), Lauda/Scheckter/Hunt (3 each), Reutemann/Nilsson/Laffite/Jones (1 each)

1982 - 11 winners (covered already)

1983 - 8 winners: Prost (4), Piquet/Arnoux (3 each), Watson/Tambay/Rosberg/Alboreto/Patrese (1 each)

Can anyone see a 9th different winner this year? If so, who? Perhaps Trulli?

Gore · 26 Aug 2003, 20:04 (Ref:699954)

Good work x_dt, good to see someone has as much time to kill as I do

I see that each of the years mentioned has included at least one driver's final/only victory ('75: Pace, Mass, Brambilla; '77: Nilsson; '82: Pironi, de Angelis; '83: Watson). Bad news for Fisi? Or perhaps next season won't actually be Coulthard's year at all..?

Mr V · 26 Aug 2003, 20:18 (Ref:699970)

Quote:

Originally posted by x_dt

Can anyone see a 9th different winner this year? If so, who? Perhaps Trulli?

I personally can't see a ninth winner this season, but if there is, it definatly won't be Trulli

ralf fan · 26 Aug 2003, 20:24 (Ref:699974)

I doubt we will see a 9th winner ,Trulli is the only guy who has the car to do it but his race day performances are not up to mark

**Bononi** · 26 Aug 2003, 20:28 (Ref:699980)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr V
I personally can't see a ninth winner this season, but if there is, it definatly won't be Trulli

That can be Mark Webber ! He's the fastest guy after the top teams. A couple of DNF from the top three, maybe a wer race, and there you have it !

Mr V · 26 Aug 2003, 21:58 (Ref:700069)

I was going to mention Webber, but it would take a lot of bad luck for the others (JPM, Rafe, Michael, Rubens, Kimi, DC and Alonso) all to fail imo.

vatuloa · 26 Aug 2003, 22:14 (Ref:700083)

I would love to see Webber the 9th winner this year but with the fords detonating when pushed it will be difficult

jetsetter · 27 Aug 2003, 00:29 (Ref:700168)

I think realistically for there to be a ninth winner it could only come from either Trulli who has the car but struggles to compete in races or Webber who has the ability to win races but i don't believe the Jaguar has race winning potential yet. Somehow i think we'll have to be content for eight winners this year.

climb · 27 Aug 2003, 06:48 (Ref:700311)

One more point is, to evaluate the championship equilibrium, how many winner teams hve been there.
For instance , this year is 5 up to now(Ferrari, Macs, Jordan, Williams, Renault), i.e. 50% of the field
In 1982 should be: Ferrari, Williams, Brabham, McLaren, Lotus, Tyrrell, Renault, for a total of 7, once again 50% of the teams won at least a GP

JustinDawkins · 27 Aug 2003, 08:32 (Ref:700369)

If that is the most ever, what is the least? I am guessing its 2-3, That one would be good as a ratio to races I think, any ideas?

x_dt · 27 Aug 2003, 08:46 (Ref:700376)

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Originally posted by JustinDawkins
If that is the most ever, what is the least? I am guessing its 2-3, That one would be good as a ratio to races I think, any ideas?

As recently as 1988 only 3 drivers (Senna, Prost and Berger) won races. Don't know if that is the record.

climb · 27 Aug 2003, 08:53 (Ref:700380)

Seems like that, and if it wasn't for Ayrton's stupid mistake at Monza while lapping Schlesser, it would have been only two...but maybe was of a general interest that Ferrari could win at Monza that year, perhaps Senna accident was a politically correct decision, infact I remember he was not too worried about that, in the post-race interviews

JustinDawkins · 27 Aug 2003, 10:03 (Ref:700428)

What about 1994? I cant remember there being more than three? Schumacher/Hill/Mansell/@Austrailia. Anyone know?

paulzinho · 27 Aug 2003, 10:10 (Ref:700436)

Berger at Hockenheim, that was the only other victor.

**Bononi** · 27 Aug 2003, 13:14 (Ref:700647)

Quote:

Originally posted by jetsetter
I think realistically for there to be a ninth winner it could only come from either Trulli who has the car but struggles to compete in races or Webber who has the ability to win races but i don't believe the Jaguar has race winning potential yet. Somehow i think we'll have to be content for eight winners this year.

Trulli is the logic, but I think Webber has a little chance by mixing some race incidents. Remeber that he is almost always within the top drivers in qualifying and racing.

It would be so nice to F1 to see 3 drivers making their first win in the same year !

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