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View Poll Results: Which driver is going to win the VASC Driver’s Championship In 2018?
#1 Jamie Whincup RBHRT Holden 6 14.63%
#2 Scott Pye WAU Holden 1 2.44%
#5 Mark Winterbottom Tickford Ford 0 0%
#6 Cameron Waters Tickford Ford 1 2.44%
#7 Andre Heimgartner NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#8 Nick Percat BJR Holden 0 0%
#9 David Reynolds Erebus Holden 1 2.44%
#12 Fabian Coulthard DJRTP Ford 1 2.44%
#14 Tim Slade BJR Holden 0 0%
#15 Rick Kelly NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#17 Scott McLaughlin DJRTP Ford 22 53.66%
#18 Lee Holdsworth Team18 Holden 0 0%
#19 Jack Le Brocq Tekno Holden 0 0%
#21 Tim Blanchard TBR Holden 0 0%
#23 Michael Caruso NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#25 James Courtney WAU Holden 1 2.44%
#33 Garth Tander GRM Holden 0 0%
#34 James Golding GRM Holden 0 0%
#35 Todd Hazelwood MSR Ford 0 0%
#55 Chaz Mostert Tickford Ford 4 9.76%
#56 Richie Stanaway Tickford Ford 1 2.44%
#78 Simona de Silvestro NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#97 Shane van Gisbergen RBHRT Holden 2 4.88%
#99 Anton de Pasquale Erebus Holden 1 2.44%
#230 Will Davison 23RED Ford 0 0%
#888 Craig Lowndes ALR Holden 0 0%
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Old 9 Jun 2017, 04:54 (Ref:3739595)   #451
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http://www.speedcafe.com/2017/06/09/...mplementation/

So in theory, Holden running the same game V8s so very little change and only dabbling with Turbo V6s

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So in theory, Holden running the same game V8s so very little change and only dabbling with Turbo V6s

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I think thats they way they have gone, all will be v8s
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Old 9 Jun 2017, 10:46 (Ref:3739662)   #453
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I think thats they way they have gone, all will be v8s
Good. I don't think fans will be pleased with half a field of farty V6 turbos... this delays the problem at least.

The Cadillac ATS-V V6TT road car does sound alright mind you, just the race cars always seem to sound terrible.
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Old 9 Jun 2017, 11:45 (Ref:3739670)   #454
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Good. I don't think fans will be pleased with half a field of farty V6 turbos... this delays the problem at least.

The Cadillac ATS-V V6TT road car does sound alright mind you, just the race cars always seem to sound terrible.
Nissan GT-R GT3, Indycars? Sound pretty good to me
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Old 9 Jun 2017, 13:43 (Ref:3739696)   #455
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Good. I don't think fans will be pleased with half a field of farty V6 turbos... this delays the problem at least.

The Cadillac ATS-V V6TT road car does sound alright mind you, just the race cars always seem to sound terrible.
Oh I agree with the V6 thing but all this who har about change and nothing is going to happen.
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Yep ............. how boring, if ya gonna change, then fkn change
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Old 10 Jun 2017, 15:34 (Ref:3739981)   #457
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Indycars? Sound pretty good to me
Better than F1's V6 turbo but not as good as the V8 turbo CART & Champcars.
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but not as good as the V8 turbo CART & Champcars.
And they never sounded anywhere near as good as an Offy
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Yep ............. how boring, if ya gonna change, then fkn change
Wouldn't you rather see Holden, Ford and Nissan go for it though. It sucks (for the V6 fans (very few) that it wont be at the start of next season but I would rather see them develop a good engine then a rush job just to get it out, and I am a Ford fan.
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Wouldn't you rather see Holden, Ford and Nissan go for it though. It sucks (for the V6 fans (very few) that it wont be at the start of next season but I would rather see them develop a good engine then a rush job just to get it out, and I am a Ford fan.
I would prefer that some semblance of market relevance be maintained by having a similar configuration engine (even if it isn't the exact one) under the bonnet from day dot. And all the development issues to show up during their racing season.

Nissan had to test in public. Erebus had to test in public.

Seems a bit generous to make sure that doesn't happen for Holden

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I would prefer that some semblance of market relevance be maintained by having a similar configuration engine (even if it isn't the exact one) under the bonnet from day dot. And all the development issues to show up during their racing season.
Like the Altima and the S60?
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Like the Altima and the S60?
That was then, this is now. Half the field run Commodores.
There is a works team. A pukka works team.
And several other strong privateer Holden teams.

Think of the consumer seeing the V8 Commo-signia racing, heading to their local Zupps or Suttons or other major Holden dealer to be shown something that isn't on the showroom floor.

In terms of engines, because there is a works team, running the V6TT should have been the non-negotiable marketing prescription.
Especially since there are going to be no cars made here by Holden by next season.

They could even drag out the old FHolden slogans.. "The V6 Fix..."

From a marketing perspective, it is inelegant to have the VF shape running against the new Insignia.. especially if it beats it.

There is a cost to inelegance. It usually involves confusing the very people you are trying to influence to buy your road car products.

You might argue that Volvo buyers in the supercar road car market would be pulled towards that brand's performance range anyway. A V8 isn't absolutely critical since there are alternatives.

And the 3 men and a rental car company taking up Altimas may not trouble the scorekeeper. Arguably too Nissan has not built the segue between Altima and the rest of their range. Had they done that, maybe the road car part would fire harder.

It is all about the marketing here. On track, the parity police will eventually build a balance of performance on an ongoing basis.

The optics are what doesn't work right now
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Old 13 Jun 2017, 01:55 (Ref:3740720)   #463
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Holden won't be selling a V6TT Commodore though...so it doesn't matter what engine they run.
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Old 13 Jun 2017, 03:42 (Ref:3740738)   #465
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Current SC blocks aren't iron.

They're not even produced by GM.
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They're not even produced by GM.
I didn't know the Fords and Holdens used alloy-blocks in the Supercars! How interesting. When did they change?

I know there is a choice of either in the Ford Racing catalog, but I didn't know we used the alloy ones here.
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I didn't know the Fords and Holdens used alloy-blocks in the Supercars! How interesting. When did they change?

I know there is a choice of either in the Ford Racing catalog, but I didn't know we used the alloy ones here.
I think the blocks are 'Compacted graphite iron' rather than your trad cast iron.



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Tim Slade Out Of Contract At End of 2017

Will it just automatically renew? Where would Mr Slade go elsewhere?
Or will BJR shift the Freightliner branding to #8 to put Mr M. Jones in the #14?
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IMO Macauley's not quite ready for the main game yet. He's doing alright in Super2 but not well enough to make me think he's a front runner there.

I don't think there is really a better team for Slade to go to, except maybe GRM (I think Moffat might be out of contract at the end of this year too?)

Likewise I don't think BJR is really going to be able to get anyone better then Slade. James Courtney came to mind but apparently he is stuck with Walkinshaw until the end of 2019 (poor guy...)

Blanchard is off contract as well, so it's quite possible that Macauley could take his seat if he steps aside like he suggested he might do at the end of this year.
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Will it just automatically renew? Where would Mr Slade go elsewhere?
Or will BJR shift the Freightliner branding to #8 to put Mr M. Jones in the #14?
If Macauley did move into the main game I'd say its in car 21. He or Hazlewood my guess is. Brad would be silly to let Slade go easy. Where can he go too that's as good as BJR. If anything Mr Percat is on the block, if he doesn't pick up he may be looking again
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You'd think all involved would want things to remain as they are.
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You'd think all involved would want things to remain as they are.
It may well be a question of budget. Running #8 on part deals, and tearing up as much gear as BJR has this year, it might be Jack Smith?
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