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Old 26 Jun 2017, 07:04 (Ref:3746880)   #126
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Maybe he runs the NSX next year?
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 11:37 (Ref:3746932)   #127
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If he was running GTD why would he be talking to manufacturers? Would be more important to be building clients and buying a car they want. The fact they mentioned no prototype options made me think they want a factory team with the money and drivers that brings along. Only thing I could think of was BMW as they open the GTLM bidding up each year apparently and they have a slight tie-in with BMW being their Formula E team for now.
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 11:59 (Ref:3746940)   #128
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Honda GTLM? That's spitballing if there ever was, but that's my best guess atm.

I doubt RLL would get dropped by BMW, but stranger things I suppose.
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 16:38 (Ref:3747011)   #129
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Brown out, Derani in at ESM post Watkins Glen. That is a significant step up in driver talent.
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 16:49 (Ref:3747016)   #130
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Brown out, Derani in at ESM post Watkins Glen. That is a significant step up in driver talent.
You don't say!

Good for the team. I'm sure Ed can find something else to do
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 18:04 (Ref:3747051)   #131
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You don't say!

Good for the team. I'm sure Ed can find something else to do
It sounds like he is going the GTD route. I sure would love to see a GTR in GTD.
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 18:10 (Ref:3747054)   #132
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I thought Brown was basically funding that team. Is he going to fun a DPi, but race in GTD?
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 19:14 (Ref:3747075)   #133
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It sounds like he is going the GTD route. I sure would love to see a GTR in GTD.
That would be good for him.
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I thought Brown was basically funding that team. Is he going to fun a DPi, but race in GTD?
He does fund the team. Or at least his company, Patrón does. He'll probably fund both and race where he honestly should be in GTD. It's perfect for him.
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 19:17 (Ref:3747077)   #134
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I have heard that Ed doesn't particularly enjoy his time in a prototype. At least not as much as his time in GT.
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 19:19 (Ref:3747078)   #135
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I thought Brown was basically funding that team. Is he going to fun a DPi, but race in GTD?
I think Ed Brown has been quite pleased with the Patron's ROI in IMSA, so I think they are going to continue doing that. Patron sponsored LMPs before Ed raced in the series.
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 19:41 (Ref:3747087)   #136
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If he was running GTD why would he be talking to manufacturers?
Simple: Because manufacturers build those cars, and there ARE manufacturer partnerships in the class. Ferrari, Porsche, Honda and Toyota all have factory partner teams in GTD.

There's some serious behind the scenes talk that Andretti is pursuing the factory NSX GTD deal.
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Old 26 Jun 2017, 21:48 (Ref:3747122)   #137
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Simple: Because manufacturers build those cars, and there ARE manufacturer partnerships in the class. Ferrari, Porsche, Honda and Toyota all have factory partner teams in GTD.

There's some serious behind the scenes talk that Andretti is pursuing the factory NSX GTD deal.
The factory-backed NSX and Lexus deals end after this season and return to a "normal" GT3 customer relationship. Or at least that's what we've been told.
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Simple: Because manufacturers build those cars, and there ARE manufacturer partnerships in the class. Ferrari, Porsche, Honda and Toyota all have factory partner teams in GTD.

There's some serious behind the scenes talk that Andretti is pursuing the factory NSX GTD deal.
Exactly what JHamilton said, there is NO factory deal for 2018. The drivers aren't even factory drivers, they are contracted to the teams. The allowance for 2017 manufacturer cash is done, if they go back on that expect every manufacturer to be waving cash in the class and then it's DONE.
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Old 27 Jun 2017, 00:39 (Ref:3747147)   #139
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How sweet would a Lexus LC 500 GTE be? It is one of the best looking cars for <$120k to hit the market in quite some time.
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Brown out, Derani in at ESM post Watkins Glen. That is a significant step up in driver talent.
That car with Derani is a real threat now. Can't wait to see him in action, great news for the competitiveness of the class.
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Exactly what JHamilton said, there is NO factory deal for 2018.
So far as we know, yes. However, that can change at any time.

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This has no bearing on whether or not a team has factory backing. Factory-provided drivers are not automatically a part of getting support from the factory.

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To what "allowance" are you referring? You speak like IMSA's clamping down and forbidding such expenses in the future, but I've not heard of any IMSA ruling saying factories will not be allowed to back teams in GTD for next year.

Even if they do, it's effectively impossible to completely put a stop to factory associations in a class like GTD. It's going to happen no matter what. So, we come back to the original question: Why would they be looking in GTD if they want a factory partnership? Because they can get one.

It is of course no GUARANTEE that they're going to GTD. It's simply one possibility.

And no, GTD will not be done if they let the manufacturers continue to spend money. Frankly, that's one of the things keeping the manufacturers happy despite that million-dollar extra charge. To say nothing of the teams, considering how pricey those GT3 cars tend to be.
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So far as we know, yes. However, that can change at any time.

To what "allowance" are you referring? You speak like IMSA's clamping down and forbidding such expenses in the future, but I've not heard of any IMSA ruling saying factories will not be allowed to back teams in GTD for next year.
Hmm, I guess my reading comprehension is a little rough now?? And that's just the easy to find article, it was also mentioned a few times by MP and on race broadcasts but hey I guess it's a giant conspiracy and they'll be back next year. These are the ONLY two teams who get to spend like that in GTD. MB has a car debuting in the series, have they gotten to directly support the teams as Acura and Lexus have?

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/at...o-season-only/
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It sounds like Penske-Honda and Joest-Audi are going to be a reality next year. If they both pan out IMSA is going to have one heck of a P grid for 2018.

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The Penske-HPD is certain, the Joest-Audi is hopeful, but I'm not gonna get too far ahead of myself with that.
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All lies from the propaganda mill. Just like the Nissan DPi, these will never see the light of day and only exist in Dagys' mind.
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All lies from the propaganda mill. Just like the Nissan DPi, these will never see the light of day and only exist in Dagys' mind.
Ok lets not accuse Mr. Dagys of being Sportscar's CNN. He is an excellent reporter and I am glad he is around.
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Ok lets not accuse Mr. Dagys of being Sportscar's CNN. He is an excellent reporter and I am glad he is around.
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